# NFL WEEK 8: Is Enough

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 24, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237 "2019-10-24T15:19:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/21 "2019-10-26T00:53:33Z")

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Oops. Misread the post.

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**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/22 "2019-10-26T21:04:29Z")

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I’m quite annoyed that we get CLE at N.E. tomorrow instead of CAR @ S.F. What a gyp!

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/23 "2019-10-27T17:40:44Z")

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Haven’t gotten to see the Bills yet this year until now. Look good so far. A couple plays on that drive were just brilliant, including the TD.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/24 "2019-10-27T19:56:57Z")

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I love how, despite a critical int., a fumble setting up a TD for the Chargers, and taking a sack to take them out of field goal range, if Pinero makes this kick, Trubisky will be lauded as a winner.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/25 "2019-10-27T21:55:17Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I love how, despite a critical int., a fumble setting up a TD for the Chargers, and taking a sack to take them out of field goal range, if Pinero makes this kick, Trubisky will be lauded as a winner.

…Nope!

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**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/26 "2019-10-27T23:05:32Z")

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The latest “Power Rankings” I saw had “Nawlins” at #1 and San Francisco at #2 in the N.F.C. After today’s games I think that might have to be reversed. The Niners appear to be for real this year.

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/27 "2019-10-28T02:08:14Z")

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> [@racepug](#):
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> I sure wouldn’t put much money down on that happening. But I’ll sure be happy if it does!

Well, you’ll get a few more chances over the years. What with the Bengals moving to London in 2022 and all that.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/28 "2019-10-28T02:45:10Z")

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> [@racepug](#):
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> The latest “Power Rankings” I saw had “Nawlins” at #1 and San Francisco at #2 in the N.F.C. After today’s games I think that might have to be reversed. The Niners appear to be for real this year.

49ers are legit

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**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/29 "2019-10-28T04:21:58Z")

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Freddie Kitchens: punt on 4th and 11 from own 14. False start penalty (#492 of the game), 4th and 16. Decide to send offense back out to go for it. Fail. Explain later that you false started on purpose to save a timeout. Which you previously wasted on yet another stupid challenge that had no chance of being overturned. I mean, what?

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**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/30 "2019-10-28T15:36:26Z")

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Barring a big turnaround Freddie Kitchens is one and done.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/31 "2019-10-28T16:23:01Z")

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Speaking of that Browns & Patriots game, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team turn the ball over on three consecutive plays before.

I was happy that Cleveland stuck with Chubb, though, and it reminded me how Tom Coughlin would sit running backs who fumbled for the rest of the game, if not multiple games. It used to drive me up a wall.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/32 "2019-10-28T16:23:09Z")

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Who is Cleveland going to get to turn the team around? They conceptually don’t understand how to put a team together.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/33 "2019-10-28T17:38:26Z")

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> [@LoneRhino](#):
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> Barring a big turnaround Freddie Kitchens is one and done.

They’re sloppy and undisciplined for sure, but they have talent and fight. I’m not sure he’s out at the end of the year no mater what. But a few more wins would certainly help.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/34 "2019-10-28T19:05:47Z")

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Brees is back, and the Saints looked great! Could be recency bias, but this might be the most complete Saints team I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/35 "2019-10-28T21:40:04Z")

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A couple trades happening today. Kenyan Drake goes from the factory of sadness that is the Miami Dolphins to the factory of false hope that is Arizona Cardinals. Cards give up just a 6th rounder (could become a 5th if he’s used enough), which seems fair considering he’s likely just a rental until David Johnson and Chase Edmonds get healthy.

And former #6 overall pick Leonard Williams leaves the factory of sadness that is the Jets to the factory of self-delusion that is the Giants. At least he gets to stay in the same city. The Giants give up a third rounder this year and a 5th rounder the following year (could become a 4th). I don’t understand this trade from the Giants point of view. They’re not in contention this year, and Williams was going to become a free agent at the end of the year anyway, so if they wanted to, they could just pay him and get him at the end of the season. I suppose there is some value to getting first dibs at a new contract, but a 3rd round pick? I don’t get it.

Trade deadline 3:00 p.m. CST tomorrow. Should be interesting.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/36 "2019-10-28T22:00:53Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> And former #6 overall pick Leonard Williams leaves the factory of sadness that is the Jets to the factory of self-delusion that is the Giants. At least he gets to stay in the same city. The Giants give up a third rounder this year and a 5th rounder the following year (could become a 4th). I don’t understand this trade from the Giants point of view. They’re not in contention this year, and Williams was going to become a free agent at the end of the year anyway, so if they wanted to, they could just pay him and get him at the end of the season. I suppose there is some value to getting first dibs at a new contract, but a 3rd round pick? I don’t get it.

Dave Gettleman, ladies and gentleman.

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**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/37 "2019-10-28T22:14:56Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Brees is back, and the Saints looked great! Could be recency bias, but this might be the most complete Saints team I’ve ever seen.

I was pulling for the Saints going into this season after they were (in my opinion) ROBBED of a S.B. appearance last January by the N.F.L./officials. But look to Dec. 8 to see how they fare against the upstart 49ers before penciling them in for a S.B. appearance after _this_ season.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/38 "2019-10-28T22:56:58Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> And former #6 overall pick Leonard Williams leaves the factory of sadness that is the Jets to the factory of self-delusion that is the Giants. At least he gets to stay in the same city.

I read on Reddit that this is the first time that the Giants and Jets have ever made a trade with each other. :eek:

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/39 "2019-10-29T03:36:01Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> 49ers are legit

As a completely biased fan, they look downright scary. But the next six games will show it or sink it. Two games against Arizona, along with Seattle, Green Bay, New Orleans and Baltimore. Even if they go 50%, it’ll bring them to 10 wins. They have looked better then that.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8-is-enough/842237/40 "2019-10-29T09:10:53Z")

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I’m a life long Falcons fan. You seem like nice people. I ask you… can one of you swing by my house and shoot me in the head? I mean, wow. We look worse than Miami and Miami is _trying_ to lose.

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