# NFL Week 8

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 24, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164 "2013-10-24T21:41:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/41 "2013-10-27T20:05:09Z")

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Ugly win for the Giants, but when it’s only your second you take it and run. The Eagles are bad.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/42 "2013-10-27T20:23:11Z")

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Calvin Johnson is a man.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/43 "2013-10-27T20:24:19Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> I welcome your pre-game scoffing, but I’ll be vindicated in three hours:
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> Browns beat the Chiefs today. 100% lock.

I do not thing 100% means what you think it does.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/44 "2013-10-27T20:26:01Z")

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Wow. Detroit looked like they were on that field alone for that last series.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/45 "2013-10-27T20:34:49Z")

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Yep. Interesting choice on Stafford’s touch. If he’s tackled time runs out and he’s ceded the game. Reminds me of when the St Louis Cardinals did the same thing to the Cowboys years ago. Doubt anyone on either team was aware of that, probably about the time most players on the field were born.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/46 "2013-10-27T20:37:36Z")

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Time will tell, but that may have been the biggest Drive for the Lions in decades.

4-4 + two straight undisciplined losses at home = Spiral completely down toilet.  
5-3 + emotional win+easy schedule = ???

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/47 "2013-10-27T20:43:19Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I do not thing 100% means what you think it does.

I’ve very tempted to put moderator powers into play and edit my prediction to change “the Chiefs” to “the spread”.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/48 "2013-10-27T20:46:45Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Wow. Detroit looked like they were on that field alone for that last series.

I _cannot wait_ for this week’s “NFL QB’s on Facebook”.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/49 "2013-10-27T22:19:58Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Yep. Interesting choice on Stafford’s touch. If he’s tackled time runs out and he’s ceded the game. Reminds me of when the St Louis Cardinals did the same thing to the Cowboys years ago. Doubt anyone on either team was aware of that, probably about the time most players on the field were born.

What happened? Unable to watch football today.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/50 "2013-10-27T22:24:23Z")

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Trailing by six Detroit got the ball back with one minute left, no time outs and threw several passes to quickly move downfield. The last was to Johnson ending at the one with about 10 or 12 seconds left. Stafford quickly got everyone to the line signaling several times he was going to spike it but to everyone’s surprised he jumped over his lineman with the ball outstretched for the winning touchdown. It was apparent even his line didn’t realize what he was going to do. It was not a ‘secret’ play, he just saw an opportunity and took it.

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/51 "2013-10-27T22:55:47Z")

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WTF. I just wanted the skins to beat the spread and for a while it looked like they might actually win. What the hell happened?

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/52 "2013-10-27T23:18:48Z")

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Anyone watching Steelers-Raiders? What piss poor clock management on this drive by the Steelers. Get the ball with 5 minutes left down 11 and milk it to now 1:30 left and burn a time out on a stopped clock. Awful.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/53 "2013-10-27T23:26:30Z")

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> [@deltasigma](#):
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> What the hell happened?

PFM happened.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/54 "2013-10-28T00:16:07Z")

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Welcome to the NFL, Geno Smith.

Andy Dalton with FIVE TD passes, the Bengals defense with TWO pick sixes…Bengals roll, 49-9. Best performance by the offense so far this season. Marvin Jones! FOUR touchdowns!

Wooot!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/55 "2013-10-28T01:45:32Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I don’t get it. Browns are playing like a 3-12 team, not a 3-4 one. They were 3-2 and they just stopped caring. What the fuck?

Maybe they just remembered they were the browns. Played a hell of a lot better against the Chiefs than anyone but Hal saw coming.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/56 "2013-10-28T01:54:59Z")

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I love how nobody talks about Andy Dalton. He’s been playing really, really well in his last four games.

That said, helluva win by Detroit in the early game. Megatron with what, 329 yards recieving or something like that? Holy shit! 2nd most in NFL history? DAMN!

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/57 "2013-10-28T02:02:38Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I love how nobody talks about Andy Dalton. He’s been playing really, really well in his last four games.

How’d Giovanni do? With the Bengals scoring 49 points, Bernard had to have had an outstanding game. 🙂

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/58 "2013-10-28T02:19:50Z")

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I liked the Dallas/Detroit commentators talking like the game was over for about 10 minutes before Detroit’s last drive.

This situation with Dallas kicking the field goal to go up 6 is a weird one. It seems like being up 6 just forces the other team to score a touchdown to beat you, rather than kicking a field goal for OT. You could probably even justify Dallas going for it on fourth down rather than kicking the FG.

I remember a Chargers-Giants game (must have been 2009) that ended similarly. The Giants kicked a FG from about the 5 with two minutes left to go up by 6, and the Chargers won with a late touchdown.

Hey, this is funny. From Advanced NFL Stats [Win Probability Calculator](http://wp.advancednflstats.com/winprobcalc1.php):

2:00 left, 1st and 10 from your own 20, down by 3: win probability 17%  
2:00 left, 1st and 10 from your own 20, down by 6: win probability 20%

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/59 "2013-10-28T02:26:16Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> How’d Giovanni do? With the Bengals scoring 49 points, Bernard had to have had an outstanding game. 🙂

Ha ha…Andy was too busy throwing touchdowns and the defense was too busy returning interceptions to be bothered with something as silly as a running game…

🙂

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/672164/60 "2013-10-28T02:27:16Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> How’d Giovanni do? With the Bengals scoring 49 points, Bernard had to have had an outstanding game. 🙂

Speaking of which, your Packers might want to start officially worrying about that team from Detroit.

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