# NFL Week 8

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 29, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120 "2017-10-29T04:38:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/1 "2017-10-29T04:38:27Z")

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I keep forgetting to get these up before the Thursday games, sorry.

Thursday  
Ravens 40, Dolphins 0

Sunday 9:30 eastern (London)  
Vikings “@” Browns

Sunday early  
LAC @ NE  
CHI @ NO  
CAR @ TB  
IND @ CIN  
OAK @ BUF  
SF @ PHI  
ATL @ NYJ

Sunday late  
HOU @ SEA  
DAL @ WAS

SNF  
PIT @ DET

MNF  
DEN @ KC

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/2 "2017-10-29T05:10:12Z")

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Not only do I have to wake up at fucking 6am for that shit show, but there was a gas leak in the Browns’ hotel in London so they got dragged out of bed at 5am, which is just what you need when you’re about to play a jet lagged football game. Being a Browns fan is like having a disease that makes you feel like shit that you nevertheless choose to keep for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/3 "2017-10-29T15:48:58Z")

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Cleveland is keeping this one close, though I’d be a little salty about that DPI call in the endzone. That ball was about 10 yards over everyone’s head.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/4 "2017-10-29T19:40:18Z")

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At least the Eagles are truly beating up on a winless team this time instead of playing to their level.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/5 "2017-10-29T19:53:36Z")

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This Bears team is making a game of this.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/6 "2017-10-29T20:12:57Z")

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Saints finally end it. Should have put it away twice before, but Ingram fumbled both times.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/7 "2017-10-29T22:16:28Z")

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Went to the Bengals v Colts game with my sons, one of whom is a Colts fan. Glad he left disappointed, but a cool Colts fan sitting behind him gave him a Colts tote bag, which was a really nice thing to do, especially since it was his first NFL game.

His team (6th grade) is going to their Superbowl next Saturday, the game will be played at the local high school’s kickass field, they’re 9-1, and they’re playing the only team that beat them this season. Revenge is in the air!

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/8 "2017-10-30T13:14:55Z")

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Well, Hue Jackson has given up on the Browns’ hopes of winning a game. Says Hue:

“I think everything has got to be perfect for us to have a chance to win a football game. That’s just where we are as a football team. We get it, and our coaching staff gets it, and our players get it, and we work that way. We try to do the best we can to get everything right, but we all know that’s not how football is played. You can’t be perfect. It’s still a game.”

He’s a little bit off. The Browns not only need to be perfect, they also need their opponent to be having an off day. They are just so bad in every aspect of the game. I’m sick of hearing how they passed on Wentz and Watson and Trubiskey and on and on. Pick one, they would suck in this offense. Not a single one of their skill position players would start for another NFL team.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/9 "2017-10-30T13:23:17Z")

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> **[Doctors stabilize leg of Bears' Zach Miller following emergency surgery](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/doctors-stabilize-leg-of-bears-zach-miller-following-emergency-surgery/)**
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> The Bears tight end was in danger of losing his leg after a scary injury in Sunday's game against the Saints

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/10 "2017-10-30T14:06:40Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> [Doctors stabilize leg of Bears' Zach Miller following emergency surgery - CBSSports.com](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/surgeons-reportedly-trying-to-save-zach-millers-leg-after-gruesome-knee-injury/)

Sorry. Was getting into the car and didn’t realize that I’d posted. Surgeons are trying to save Zach Miller’s leg after that horrible injury.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/11 "2017-10-30T14:37:07Z")

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I wish they had shown Martavis Bryant’s face during JuJu’s 97-yard touchdown run. Just to see the moment when he realized his Steelers career was tanking.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/12 "2017-10-30T17:25:53Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Sorry. Was getting into the car and didn’t realize that I’d posted. Surgeons are trying to save Zach Miller’s leg after that horrible injury.

This sucks. Miller’s been a great asset when he’s been on the field but he’s been hit every year with weird injuries. To add insult to injury, the refs took back his TD because he didn’t fully complete the process or some other BS while making the catch. Total BS call.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/13 "2017-10-30T20:33:00Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> This sucks. Miller’s been a great asset when he’s been on the field but he’s been hit every year with weird injuries. To add insult to injury, the refs took back his TD because he didn’t fully complete the process or some other BS while making the catch. Total BS call.

Ball in his hands? Check.  
Did he get control of it? Check.  
Did he have both feet in the end zone? Check.  
Did he still control it when his feet went down? Check.

They took away the catch because the ball came loose after the TD was made, which isn’t a rule and is total BS. Not that it wasn’t enough that you’re probably out for the season, may never play again, and may lose your leg. We’ll take away your score for something we’ll make up.

The only comfort is that the Bears still wouldn’t have won, but come on, it’s still an embarrassment for the officials.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/14 "2017-10-30T20:43:13Z")

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I have no dog in this fight. I didn’t see the game and just watched the replay of the catch. And to my eye, the ball is clearly moving as it hits the ground. I would have called that a non-catch 100% of the time.

I hope he is able to recover and resume his career - sounds like a really nasty injury. Best of luck to him!

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/15 "2017-10-30T21:00:17Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Ball in his hands? Check.  
> Did he get control of it? Check.  
> Did he have both feet in the end zone? Check.  
> Did he still control it when his feet went down? Check.

Which would be fine if that were the only requirements for a TD catch in the NFL. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/16 "2017-10-30T22:41:59Z")

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The rule now is that you have to control the ball all the way to the ground, or it was never a catch, breaking the plane notwithstanding.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/17 "2017-10-31T02:06:40Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> The rule now is that you have to control the ball all the way to the ground, or it was never a catch, breaking the plane notwithstanding.

I saw no significant movement in that catch and other analysts agreed with me (including Blandino). Chicago was flat-out robbed.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/18 "2017-10-31T04:03:33Z")

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49ers trade 2nd Rounder for Jimmy Garapolo. Wow. Assuming they can sign him to a long term deal, I’m OK with it. (Also assuming he plays as well as they expect. )

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/19 "2017-10-31T04:05:58Z")

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Well, the Broncos look absolutely terrible. Time to blow up the entire offense?

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-8/800120/20 "2017-10-31T04:09:35Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> 49ers trade 2nd Rounder for Jimmy Garapolo. Wow. Assuming they can sign him to a long term deal, I’m OK with it. (Also assuming he plays as well as they expect. )

So, now that they’ve traded away 2 backups this season, who do they have to back up their 40 year old starter?

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