# NFL Week One good turn deserves another **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [September 3, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058 "2021-09-03T18:06:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/81 "2021-09-13T00:37:59Z")
at least it will rattle some chains in the "anoint the cheifs as the next patriots " camp ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/82 "2021-09-13T00:59:54Z")
Looking like the Andy Dalton era will be a short one. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/83 "2021-09-13T01:02:30Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The Browns just had an entire drive of runs, like 8 in a row, ending in a TD. Um, this is not correct. TD #1: 13 plays, 7 pass 6 rush TD #2: 6 plays, 3 pass 3 rush TD #3: 6 plays, 2 pass 4 rush TD #4: 9 plays, 2 pass 7 rush > [@nightshadea](#): > > at least it will rattle some chains in the "anoint the cheifs as the next patriots " camp I think that rattling started during the last Super Bowl. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/84 "2021-09-13T01:14:38Z")
Yeah, you’re right, I forgot a pass in the middle of that run of rushes. Also what’s the deal with defenders wearing single digit jersey numbers now? Like… are teams carrying 10 linebackers or 20 DBs and need the extra numbers? It just seems weird. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/85 "2021-09-13T01:59:59Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Eddie Jackson started reading his newspaper clippings and forgot how to tackle and how to cover. Dude went from a future Hall or Famer to a total liability in just a couple seasons. He has the physical ability, but I’m not sure he has the fortitude. He’s admitted his failing and says he getting back to fundamentals, we need to hope that this combined with a new coaching staff will get him back on track. Nope. Time to bench this sack of shit. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/86 "2021-09-13T03:11:01Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Also what’s the deal with defenders wearing single digit jersey numbers now? The NFL loosened their jersey number rules this season; defensive backs, wide receivers, tight ends, running backs, and linebackers can all now wear single-digit jersey numbers (which were formerly reserved for QBs and specialists). Also, linebackers and tight ends can apparently now also wear 10-49, and running backs can wear 80-89. IIRC, if a veteran player (i.e., one who played in 2020) wanted to change to a single-digit number for this year, they had to pay a fee to do so. I’m 97% sure that it was done to sell more jerseys to fans. > **[NFL owners pass rule expanding eligible jersey numbers for certain positions](https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-passes-rule-expanding-eligible-jersey-numbers)** > > NFL owners have approved several new rule changes, including the expansion of eligible jersey numbers, the expansion of booth-to-official communication and the elimination of overtime in the preseason, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/87 "2021-09-13T03:55:33Z")
oh for people who missed it … [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-19th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-19th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread) ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/88 "2021-09-13T04:08:49Z")
E-A-G-L-E-S, EAGLES! I didn’t expect a win. I expected much worse. But hey, first place week one feels pretty good! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/89 "2021-09-13T13:27:32Z")
The Rams with Matthew Stafford look unstoppable. My Bears were beaten decisively, but not because Justin Fields didn’t start. Andy Dalton had a good game. The Bears got over 20 first downs, and they had one drive that was nine and a half minutes long, which was amazing considering the condition of our offense line, specifically the left tackle position The Bears go beat because our defense could not stop their offense. Stafford surgically took us apart. Now that he is surrounded by talent, he is showing that he is one of the league’s top quarterbacks. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/90 "2021-09-13T13:44:45Z")
I hate two teams when it comes to football: Ohio State and The KC Chiefs. I hate them for one reason: Every game they play follows the same script. The team looks bad in the first half/three quarters and all the announcers/fans/twitter people start freaking out and go “ohhhhh they’re going to loooooose” and then they always pull it out of their asses and win, which causes the same people to say “ohhhhh they’re so talented and great! Pat Mahomes is literally Jesus!” OK, I know ya’ll are going to remind me Ohio State lost this weekend. They did. The Chiefs lose sometimes too, but I hate every Saturday and Sunday seeing the game be close only for them to win and it just pisses me off. Either win like the elite team you are, or lose like normal teams do ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/91 "2021-09-13T14:56:30Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > > [@madsircool](#): > > > > Which will likely be late first rounders and they have crippled themselves at QB. Goff was benched and dumped by the Rams for a reason. It might be understandable if the Lions plan on tanking and rebuilding but will the HC get the benefit of the doubt? > > Stafford wanted out and asked for a trade. He wasn’t going to play for Detroit. And the Lions were not going to compete this year anyway. The Lions got what they could, and it was a pretty good haul. That’s what I was going to point out-- Stafford wanted out after 12 seasons of futility, and rightly so. I don’t blame him a bit. At this point I’m more concerned about the Lion’s defense-- Goff and the offense managed to claw their way back to contention, if not a win, toward the end of Sunday’s game. But the D was tissue paper against the 49ers. You score 33 points and don’t put up a W it’s on the defense. > [@Jasmine](#): > > The Rams with Matthew Stafford look unstoppable. I said it upthread, I always thought Stafford could do wonders on a better team. I wish I could have seen THAT game, and I look forward to following Stafford’s progress this season. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/92 "2021-09-13T14:58:47Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > …The KC Chiefs. I hate them for one reason: > > Every game they play follows the same script. The team looks bad in the first half/three quarters and all the announcers/fans/twitter people start freaking out and go “ohhhhh they’re going to loooooose” and then they always pull it out of their asses and win Last year the Chiefs won 16 games, 14 in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. In those 16 victories, they led at the half in 11 of them and were tied at the half in another. > [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Either win like the elite team you are How, exactly, do elite teams win? ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/93 "2021-09-13T15:06:59Z")
I’d like to applaud the Browns, I believe they made it more than 7 minutes into the season before one of their players purposefully stepped on an opposing player and shoved an opposing assistant coach on the sideline. They are making big strides in cleaning up their act! Not once did they tear off an opposing player’s helmet and try to use it as a weapon against them! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/94 "2021-09-13T16:47:06Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Every game they play follows the same script. The team looks bad in the first half/three quarters and all the announcers/fans/twitter people start freaking out and go “ohhhhh they’re going to loooooose” and then they always pull it out of their asses and win, which causes the same people to say “ohhhhh they’re so talented and great! Pat Mahomes is literally Jesus!" To be fair that’s how the Seahawks have been for the past decade too, except that Russell Wilson has traditionally been dismissed as a “game manager” (that narrative has finally started to change the last few years, as it should considering he is historically good stat-wise and probably a lock for the HoF eventually). Part of that is because of the way their team was built; run it often, lean on defense, and wear the other team down so that toward the end of the game they are gassed and you can exploit them. Also the “you can’t win the game until the 4th quarter” mentality. Yesterday’s game was different; they scored on their first couple of drives and pretty much buried Indy early. The final score didn’t tell the whole story; Seattle basically had the game in hand just about the entire way. A surprisingly drama-free game for the rollercoaster Seahawks. I’m not used to that. Since this is a new offensive game plan under a rookie OC, this might be what we will see week after week (hopefully). I could get used to this. (Also, the defense was really good and harassed Carson Wentz all day.) ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/95 "2021-09-13T17:34:23Z")
> [@Clawdio](#): > > I’d like to applaud the Browns, I believe they made it more than 7 minutes into the season before one of their players purposefully stepped on an opposing player and shoved an opposing assistant coach on the sideline. If that’s what you saw from the video, I don’t know what to tell you. Harrison obviously stumbled and tried to put as little weight on CEH as possible, while jostled, until multiple Chiefs coaches pushed him. It wasn’t a Suh stomp by any means. Throw Harrison out for shoving a coach? Sure. But the coach should be getting the same treatment for entering the field of play and putting hands on a player. [Video instead of narrative](https://streamable.com/k63miy) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/96 "2021-09-13T17:40:45Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Throw Harrison out for shoving a coach? Sure. But the coach should be getting the same treatment for entering the field of play and putting hands on a player. > > [Video instead of narrative](https://streamable.com/k63miy) I agree. Kick the coach off the sideline for a game. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/97 "2021-09-13T17:41:44Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > How, exactly, do elite teams win? The answer, I would think, is in a variety of different ways. Sustaining success in the NFL is extremely difficult if you are one dimentsional. You have to be able to win in a variety of ways with a variety of weapons. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/98 "2021-09-13T18:05:45Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > Sustaining success in the NFL is extremely difficult if you are one dimentsional. You have to be able to win in a variety of ways with a variety of weapons. I would agree 100% with this statement. Elite teams win by dominating weaker teams, and finding ways to beat other good teams in close games. If you are experiencing sustained success in the NFL, then you must be more than one dimensional. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/99 "2021-09-13T18:07:24Z")
Not a great week for me. Packers deservedly lose big, Rodgers gets more annoying every second, and I lost every one of my fantasy football games. On the plus side, there were good games to watch (Steelers Bills was great), all the other teams in the NFC North lost, and Urban Meyer made a fool of himself with a completely unprepared team against a well-coached, hard playing underdog team. It will be interesting to see if teams change their attitude about having starters play more in the preseason. There were more than a few players who looked completely unprepared. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058/100 "2021-09-13T18:08:07Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I agree. Kick the coach off the sideline for a game I don’t know what the rules are, so I can’t say what, if any, punishment is right for the coach. But he definitely did not “enter the field of play.” The video clip shows that he never crosses the sideline onto the field, if that matters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-one-good-turn-deserves-another/950058.md?page=6)