# NFL WEEK SIX guns ablazing **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [October 12, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472 "2023-10-12T19:38:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/41 "2023-10-16T04:38:52Z")
> **[Bears QB Justin Fields suffers dislocated thumb on right hand in loss to Vikings](https://www.nfl.com/news/bears-qb-justin-fields-questionable-to-return-with-right-hand-injury-vs-vikings)** > > Chicago Bears quarterback Justin Fields was ruled out of Sunday's loss to the Minnesota Vikings with an injury to his throwing hand. I’m excited for Bagent season. I don’t want Fields hurt and I really don’t want any excuse for the Bears to exit this season still undecided on him. But I’m glad we get a chance to evaluate Bagent. Obviously today wasn’t the best circumstances for anyone to enter a game and certainly a few ugly plays. But, at this point we’re in full tank mode so let’s get a real look at the kid. Of course, let’s hope Fields thumb isn’t so bad that he can’t play again this season. Want to get 4-5 games for Bagent and then let’s get Fields back out there. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/42 "2023-10-16T05:11:21Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Bills got lucky. That very last play at the end should have been yet _another_ defensive hold or PI, which would have given the Giants another untimed down with half a yard to go. Pass interference in the end zone is penalized by spotting the ball at the 1 yard line. If the ball was already at the 1, do they get half the distance to the goal line? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/43 "2023-10-16T05:23:18Z")
No, by rule DPI in the end zone gets spotted at the one. A different penalty, however, which normally penalizes you yardage or half the distance, I believe can move the ball to the 1/2 yard line. And then that’s as close as it gets. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/44 "2023-10-16T05:44:47Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > And then that’s as close as it gets. At that point you just fall over and get the TD. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/45 "2023-10-16T07:14:52Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > No, by rule DPI in the end zone gets spotted at the one. If the ball is already at the half-yard line, and DPI is called in the end zone, do the refs move the ball out to the one-yard line? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/46 "2023-10-16T07:42:47Z")
I don’t know, but I think so, yes. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/47 "2023-10-16T07:59:57Z")
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/48 "2023-10-16T12:24:17Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > No, by rule DPI in the end zone gets spotted at the one. Nope. From the [NFL rule book](https://operations.nfl.com/media/5kvgzyss/2022-nfl-rulebook-final.pdf): > Pass interference by the defense is enforced at the spot of the foul. If it occurs in the fouling team’s end zone, the ball will be placed at the one-yard line, or half the distance to the goal line from the previous spot, whichever is more beneficial to the offense. So if the previous spot was inside the two-yard line, the ball will be spotted somewhere inside the one-yard line. And the spot can be inside the half-yard line. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/49 "2023-10-16T12:30:57Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I have a soft spot for Detroit, so I’ll be rooting for them. I’ve liked the gumption of head coach Dan Campbell since he was an interim head coach for Miami; I think it’s good for the league for somebody so colorful and earnest to succeed. I was very skeptical of Campbell at first, with his talk of biting off kneecaps (what is this guy, an NFL coach, or a WWE heel?) and his going for it seemingly _ **every single damn time** _ on 4th down (yes, there’s a time and place to go for it on 4th down, but that time is not every time). But he’s won me over as a coach. Of course, winning will do that, but he does have an earnest quality (early kneecap-biting talk aside) that comes across when he does post-game interviews. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/50 "2023-10-16T14:04:39Z")
I was amused by Campbell initially with the kneecap-type bluster. The NFL needs more characters! But I was sold when I understood that his colorful speeches were for the benefit of his players, not the media or fans. He really has the players bought into this and believing they can win anything. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/51 "2023-10-16T15:30:35Z")
Having one of the top 3 offensive lines in the NFL, a #1 draft pick at QB, a young, stud pass rusher, multiple high picks from a desperate team helps too. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/52 "2023-10-16T15:59:34Z")
To state the obvious, Desmond Ridder is not a good player, and he’s almost getting worse every week. The Falcons are not finished yet at 3-3; as someone who watched all of his Washington games I’m confident Taylor Heinicke gives them a way better chance to win than Ridder does. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/53 "2023-10-16T17:24:32Z")
Much has been written thus far (on this board and elsewhere) about Patrick Mahomes not playing up to his usual standards this season. Here are some stats that came across my XTwitter feed; I haven’t verified them. > Chiefs had 2,294 yards of offense thru 6 games last season. > Chiefs have 2,294 yards of offense thru 6 games this year too. > > But KC’s 147 points are the fewest in Mahomes era at this point of season (179 last year and previous low was 172 in 2019). > > However, KC has allowed 88 points, their best by 39 points since 2018. > > In the end, the Chiefs are +59 thru 6 games, which is their best scoring differential in the Mahomes era. So, yes, Mahomes isn’t up to his usual standards. But the KC defense is among the top 5, at least in terms of points allowed. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/54 "2023-10-16T22:54:19Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > KC defense is among the top 5 They haven’t exactly played a murderer’s row of high-powered offenses. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/55 "2023-10-17T00:18:39Z")
Why no Manning cast tonight? ESPN2 is just showing the Spanish language feed. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/56 "2023-10-17T01:39:42Z")
> **[Irsay: Colts' Richardson 'probably' done for year](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38675826/colts-anthony-richardson-probably-done-season-irsay-says)** > > Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson could undergo shoulder surgery in the next week or so, team owner Jim Irsay told ESPN. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/57 "2023-10-17T01:58:29Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Why no Manning cast tonight? ESPN2 is just showing the Spanish language feed. Apparently, they don’t do it every week. This season, the brothers are only doing 10 weeks’ worth of games. > **[ManningCast 2023 schedule and guest lineup](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34636537/maningcast-schedule-monday-night-football-guests-mnf)** > > Monday Night Football with Eli and Peyton Manning is back. Here's the 2023 game lineup, special guests and more. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/58 "2023-10-17T02:23:16Z")
I feel like God himself fated a Giants win over the Bills, but the Giants are just so inept they managed to fuck it up anyway. I mean, come on, you get an untimed down on the one yard line because of a defensive penalty as time expired. Saquon Barkley is in the game and has been running well. lEt’S tHrOw! Fuckin’ morons. And then the Jets miracle a win themselves, but it just makes me think even more what the team would be like with Rodgers playing. They are literally _only_ missing a quarterback. So goddamn frustrating. New York football is pretty friggin’ depressing in 2023. Not that that’s a big departure compared to the previous decade. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/59 "2023-10-17T06:49:20Z")
I’m hoping the Lions get a Super Bowl win this season, or at the minimum, the playoff win that’s eluded them for 32 years. They deserve it more than anyone. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472/60 "2023-10-17T13:59:39Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I’m hoping the Lions get a Super Bowl win this season The Lions are looking good, with a 5-1 record, a remaining schedule with some very beatable teams coming up, and benefiting from a weak division. Barring a complete collapse (which, hey, it’s the Lions-- always possible) the Lions are likely to at least get into the playoffs, and possibly as a top seed. I know, I know, it’s a little early to be saying that stuff, but I see articles like this and I dare to dream… (The article title is cut off at an unfortunate point-- the full title is ’ We Lived Long Enough to See the Detroit Lions Officially Enter the Super Bowl _ **Conversation** _’. It’s not a time-traveling article from 4 months into the future, unfortunately) > **[We Lived Long Enough to See the Detroit Lions Officially Enter the Super Bowl...](https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/lions-super-bowl-conversation-adam-schein-01hcwssdsnd9)** > > We've been existing on the fringes of society for a few months but can now speak freely. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-six-guns-ablazing/991472.md?page=4)