# NFL WEEK TWO birds with one stone **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [September 14, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107 "2023-09-14T17:21:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/81 "2023-09-19T01:09:24Z")
What kind of vile, hateful God does that to Nick Chubb, but leaves Deshaun Watson healthy? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/82 "2023-09-19T01:10:56Z")
I heard the broadcasters say that they would not show the replay. How graphic was the injury? Knee, right? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/83 "2023-09-19T01:32:10Z")
Watching it live, it didnt seem too obvious. But I don’t seek out injury videos, so Im not sure how it lookedin replay. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/84 "2023-09-19T01:35:28Z")
It’s horrific. Don’t go looking. Leg bent in a very unnatural way with a lot of force… May be a career ender, who knows. That’s definitely a dagger in my already waning enthusiasm for football in general. Nick Chubb is like the least deserving of something like that. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/85 "2023-09-19T02:01:38Z")
Please next week change the title. 😭 I’ve been praying for Lamar Jackson and Mahomes for years. I left someone out!😥 Hope they sell all the 24 jerseys out there. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/86 "2023-09-19T02:08:06Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Leg bent in a very unnatural way with a lot of force… Just think someone breaking an action figure. It’s the second time that same knee has had a severe injury. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/87 "2023-09-19T02:37:52Z")
What a weird game. 95 fumbles, sloppy. Good defense that’s stuffing most plays except when a play works it goes for 60 yards. Deshaun Watson’s best play was a block. First half took 4 hours. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/88 "2023-09-19T02:45:53Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > First half took 4 hours. I was just thinking this has been a ridiculously slow game. Maybe not 4 hours for a half, but it could be over 4 by the end. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/89 "2023-09-19T02:46:56Z")
What’s the record for the longest game in real time? What’s the record for the longest feeling game? ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/90 "2023-09-19T02:47:53Z")
People are saying he purposely intended to injure the knee.twitterworld is piling on the hate for minkah. Good. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/91 "2023-09-19T02:53:19Z")
That might be first time I’ve seen a personal foul called as the QB runs out of bounds, and the call is on the QB. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/92 "2023-09-19T03:11:18Z")
Time to avenge the knee here. Give us a long 80-yard touchdown drive to seal the deal for Chubb. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/93 "2023-09-19T03:11:52Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > What’s the record for the longest game in real time? I’m finding it remarkably hard to google the answer to this question. First, all my queries kept returning the most overtime minutes, which doesn’t say anything about how long the game actually took to play. > **[Fifty years later, Chiefs-Dolphins playoff thriller still holds title as...](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/fifty-years-later-chiefs-dolphins-playoff-thriller-still-holds-title-as-nfls-greatest-christmas-day-game/)** > > Miami prevailed in what remains the longest game in NFL history Even worse, once I finally found something that wasn’t about game minutes but actual real time minutes, it’s not about how long the game actually took to play but how long it took to finish due to weather delays. > **[TEN-MIA, at 7 hours, 8 min., longest game ever](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24630193/titans-dolphins-game-goes-nfl-record-7-hours-8-minutes)** > > The Dolphins utilized a few huge plays to secure a 27-20 win over the Titans in what was the NFL's longest game ever: a 7 hour, 8 minute affair halted by multiple weather delays. There may not be a google-able answer. From personal experience, the longest game I ever recall that wasn’t delayed by externalities was the Monday Night Miracle, but I can’t find what time it ended. I want to say around 1:30am (back when MNF was a 9pm start), but that’s just a guess. EDIT: Found a cite from the UK of all places, but it doesn’t confirm the end time, only that it took (well over) 4 hours. Buried in the article the mention that the fourth quarter alone took 90 minutes of real time. > **[The Monday Night Miracle - Miami Dolphins at New York Jets October 23rd 2000](https://www.beyondthegameplan.com/the-monday-night-miracle.html)** > > The Monday Night Miracle saw the New York Jets and the Miami Dolphins match-up on the American institution that is Monday Night Football at Giants stadium, New Jersey, each with a 5-1 record and each looking to sit atop the AFC East alone and in... ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/94 "2023-09-19T03:41:50Z")
Holy christ, I was busy this evening and just checked in to see what the final score is, how the hell is this game still going? Was there a rain delay or something? I do see all the comments upthread, but it’s not clear to me how this game is still going. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/95 "2023-09-19T03:42:16Z")
How appropriate that Deshaun Watson gets multiple personal fouls in the game. I personally think he’s foul. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/96 "2023-09-19T04:15:11Z")
Cool stat for Giants fans from the Steelers game. T.J. Watt has become the fourth guy to have four sacks and a defensive touchdown through two games: 2023 T.J. Watt, Pit 1998 Michael Strahan, NYG 1990 Lawrence Taylor, NYG 1988 Jacob Green, Sea Granted they didn’t even start tracking sacks until the 80s, but still, this is a satisfying list. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/97 "2023-09-19T04:17:15Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > how the hell is this game still going? Was there a rain delay or something? No significant delays other than 5 minutes to cart off Chubb. There was no good reason for the length other than two inept offenses that couldn’t run, so there were a lot of passes (and incompletions). > [@Atamasama](#): > > How appropriate that Deshaun Watson gets multiple personal fouls in the game. I’m all too happy to see him lose and look like a jerk while doing it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/98 "2023-09-19T05:03:00Z")
Thanks for that stat adventure. Ended up being not too crazy long at a little over 3.5 hours. But it felt so very long. ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/99 "2023-09-19T09:12:10Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > No significant delays other than 5 minutes to cart off Chubb. There was the weird thing where the first quarter ended, then (after the commercial break) right before the first snap of the 2nd quarter the Steelers challenged the previous play. There was a lengthy review, and they put 22 seconds of the first quarter back on the clock. Then after one running play, we had a second end-of-first-quarter commercial break. It felt like a 15 minute window where only one play was run. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107/100 "2023-09-19T14:50:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If you want to gripe about a BS penalty, how about the grounding penalty when Geno threw into the end zone and the receiver had a different route. That was crap. I see that happen all the time without flags. I wasn’t the only one who was upset by a clearly bad call. > **[NFL referee from viral moment with Geno Smith made the wrong call](https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-referee-viral-moment-geno-143705696.html)** > > While it’s funny, it’s also worth pointing out that Geno Smith had a very legitimate gripe and the call the official made was horrendous. Pete Carroll said the league later acknowledged that it was the wrong call. So yes, while you were talking to America, America was saying back that you are out of your mind. > It seems that the officials missed what I’ll admit was clearly holding on the winning play of the game. Unlike the other call, this wasn’t a judgement problem, I’m guessing they just didn’t see it. It happens. > **[NFL Fans Ripped Refs for Obvious No-Call on Seahawks’ Game-Winning Play vs....](https://www.wate.com/sports/sports-illustrated/72f91814/nfl-fans-ripped-refs-for-obvious-no-call-on-seahawks-game-winning-play-vs-lions/)** > > The Lions left their first home crowd of the 2023 season disappointed with a 34–31 overtime loss to the Seahawks. The game-winning play was a touchdown pass from Seattle's Geno Smith to Tyler Lockett, with the receiver stretching the ball just around... (Though the boneheads who wrote the article for some reason think a touchdown is only worth 3 points, as they write that Seattle won the game 34-31.) Seattle scored on the drive with the clearly unintentional grounding anyway, so I’m overall fine with everything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-two-birds-with-one-stone/990107.md?page=6)