# NFL: what's an "illegal" snap count? (Ravens) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2007, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-whats-an-illegal-snap-count-ravens/419599 "2007-09-18T13:21:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-whats-an-illegal-snap-count-ravens/419599/21 "2007-09-20T00:50:23Z")
[QUOTE=Jurph] In week one, Todd Heap, our workmanlike reliable go-to receiver caught a pass in the end zone for a TD, only to have “offensive pass interference” called on him. Because they were inside the 1:00 mark and out of time outs, there was no way to challenge the call. The replay showed that it was BS. [/QUOTE] There is NEVER any way to challenge a judgment call like pass interference, regardless of the time on the clock, the status of time outs, etc. It is not a challengable call. And inside of 2:00, the teams are precluded from challenging anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-whats-an-illegal-snap-count-ravens/419599/22 "2007-09-20T01:31:44Z")
[QUOTE=Hal Briston] Getting pissed off leads to anger…anger leads to whining…whining leads to becoming a Philadelphia fan. [/QUOTE] Either that or a pathetic Giants fan.. I mean GEEZ! Who in their right mind would subject themselves to that train wreck this year? I mean, you’ve got to be one unbalanced puppy to…oh..wait…nevermind, **Hal** … ---
**Author:** ![muzzynyc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b3f665/32.png) [@muzzynyc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muzzynyc)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-whats-an-illegal-snap-count-ravens/419599/23 "2007-09-20T03:04:55Z")
[QUOTE=Jurph] Having seen it happen to my team last week, I almost (almost!) felt bad about seeing it happen to your team this week. If it helps, I’ll root for you against your division rivals – that’s the Pats, right? [/QUOTE] Hey, we’ll take whatever help we can get against the Pats, those cheating bastards. (I know, I know, they’d wipe the floor with us regardless. That’s what makes Bile-chick even more of a reprehensible toad. Not that I’m bitter.) ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-whats-an-illegal-snap-count-ravens/419599/24 "2007-09-20T10:12:31Z")
[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq] There is NEVER any way to challenge a judgment call like pass interference, regardless of the time on the clock, the status of time outs, etc. It is not a challengable call. And inside of 2:00, the teams are precluded from challenging anyway. [/QUOTE] Okay, I knew about the two-minute thing, but you really can’t challenge pass interference calls? I just looked it up on Wikipedia, and it appears you’re right (unless there’s some weird lawyering with interference making the pass “incomplete”). Jeez, that’s a lousy penalty to call in a game-critical situation like that[sup]1[/sup]. I understand they’ve got to look for it and call it where they see it, but… yowch. 1. Especially since jersey-tugging by the defender is a “rules highlight” this season, and the replay shows clear and vigorous jersey-tugging. Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-whats-an-illegal-snap-count-ravens/419599/25 "2007-09-20T11:07:18Z")
Pass interference is considered a judgement call, not something that can have conclusive visual evidence, so it’s not among the things that can be challenged. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-whats-an-illegal-snap-count-ravens/419599/26 "2007-09-20T12:51:28Z")
[QUOTE=asterion] Do or do not. There is no try. (Geeze, then it’d be like the XFL.) [/QUOTE] Hate me, he does. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-whats-an-illegal-snap-count-ravens/419599.md?page=1)