# NFL Yardage Pool Competition 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 7, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473 "2011-09-07T04:37:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/41 "2011-09-26T03:27:30Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Used > QB - Philip Rivers, Rex Grossman > RB - Darren McFadden, Peyton Hillis > WR - Calvin Johnson, Greg Jennings > > Week 3 > Drew Brees > Michael Turner > Brandon Marshall 370/2 + 20 + 43 = 248 Jesus, 20 yards? ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/42 "2011-09-26T13:32:15Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > Used: > QB: Eli Manning, Philip Rivers > RB: Frank Gore, Darren McFadden > WR: Marques Colston, Calvin Johnson > > This week: > Matt Schaub > LeSean McCoy > Kenny Britt Thank god I got a chance to use Kenny Britt before he got hurt. I mean, I can always use that Welker guy some other week! 373 / 2 = 186.5 + 128 + 18 = 332.5 ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/43 "2011-09-26T17:49:52Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Used: > > Fitzpatrick > Ced Ben > Santonio Holmes > > week 3 > > Bradford > Ray Rice > Steve Johnson Week 1: 208/2, 121, 70 = 295 Week 3: 166/2, 79, 94 = 255 I suck at this. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/44 "2011-09-27T01:31:42Z")
Quick suggestion, how about we try using defensive yardage allowed next year as a new stat category. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/45 "2011-09-27T01:47:02Z")
That’s a really good idea, I like that. We’re early into the season, we can even incorporate that (late) into this year’s. What do you guys think? Stafford Mendenhall Steve Smith 378 + 37 + 15 = 241 Blah ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/46 "2011-09-27T01:59:49Z")
I’m down. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/47 "2011-09-27T03:47:30Z")
> [@really not all that bright](#): > > qb - freeman, grossman > rb - hillis, greene > wr - nicks, johnson > > this week: > Ryan fitzpatrick > rashard mendenhall > santana moss 369/2 + 37 + 70 = 291.5 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/48 "2011-09-27T04:44:02Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > That’s a really good idea, I like that. We’re early into the season, we can even incorporate that (late) into this year’s. What do you guys think? > > Stafford > Mendenhall > Steve Smith > > 378 + 37 + 15 = 241 > > Blah Have to decide the format. Subtract it from the offensive totals? Start with say 500 yards and subtract the yardage from that and add the difference? Do we apply a multiplier to normalize it some? Do we split it into passing yards allowed and rushing yards allowed? ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/49 "2011-09-27T13:04:34Z")
Getting it in early: Brady Forte Wallace Tampa Bay ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/50 "2011-09-28T06:09:34Z")
Splitting passing and rushing defense may be more interesting. Scoring them is an issue - we’d probably need some sort of multiplayer so they were roughly in the ballpark of other scores and not dominating the final score. Does anyone have a method other than subtracting the defensive yardage from a set amount (to get a positive result as a score)? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/51 "2011-09-28T15:45:35Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Splitting passing and rushing defense may be more interesting. Scoring them is an issue - we’d probably need some sort of multiplayer so they were roughly in the ballpark of other scores and not dominating the final score. Does anyone have a method other than subtracting the defensive yardage from a set amount (to get a positive result as a score)? I’d say we should zero out defense at 400 yards allowed, assuming we keep it as one stat. If you allow 350 total yards you get positive 50 points, if you allow 450 yards you lose 50 points. That way a truly elite performance, holding an offense to 200 total yards is similarly scored to a huge rushing day. If we split them apart we should probably have run defense zeroed out at 120 yards and pass defense at say 280. I chose all these numbers because I think the majority of outcomes should net positive points. Looking at the league averages only about 6 teams have averaged worse than those two benchmarks for the year. If we stick with the argument for positive points we could also disregard negative points all together and give any score above 400 yards a zero instead of a negative score. I worry that defensive scores could overly dominate the rest of the offensive numbers if we aren’t careful. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/52 "2011-09-28T16:00:45Z")
Seems a bit arbitrary. Do you really want to lose the season title because the other guy’s defense game up 349 yards thanks to three kneel downs? ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/53 "2011-09-28T17:56:04Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I worry that defensive scores could overly dominate the rest of the offensive numbers if we aren’t careful. I agree with this. I’m not against the concept completely, but like **Omni** I wouldn’t want the defensive scoring variation to outweigh everything else. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/54 "2011-09-28T20:45:45Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Seems a bit arbitrary. Do you really want to lose the season title because the other guy’s defense game up 349 yards thanks to three kneel downs? I don’t understand your concern. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/55 "2011-09-28T21:45:13Z")
I misread your post, sorry. I guess I can live with that. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/56 "2011-10-02T00:46:15Z")
Used QB - Philip Rivers, Rex Grossman, Drew Brees RB - Darren McFadden, Peyton Hillis, Michael Turner WR - Calvin Johnson, Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall Week 4 Matthew Stafford Chris Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Just a hunch on CJ2K. We’ll see if that’s crazy talk or not. ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/57 "2011-10-02T03:31:03Z")
Used: QB: Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Matt Schaub RB: Frank Gore, Darren McFadden, LeSean McCoy WR: Marques Colston, Calvin Johnson, Kenny Britt This week: Ryan Fitzpatrick Ryan Matthews Roddy “Ryan” White ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/58 "2011-10-02T06:35:07Z")
Rodgers Peterson Vincent Jackson ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/59 "2011-10-02T12:29:53Z")
Ben Roethlisberger Michael Turner Larry Fitzgerald ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473/60 "2011-10-03T00:37:05Z")
Aw, shit. Um… Curtis Painter LeGarrette Blount Mike Williams Tampa (are we doing defenses?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2011/595473.md?page=4)