# NFL Yardage Pool Competition 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 4, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614 "2012-09-04T04:35:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/321 "2012-12-17T15:09:24Z")

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Week 15: Roethlisberger, Charles, Lance Moore

339 / 2 = 169.5 + 10 + 42 = 221.5.

So glad I talked myself out of using AP this week…

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/322 "2012-12-20T16:07:07Z")

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Life’s a little nuts right now, going to get picks in today for the next two weeks. Subject to change of course

Week 16:  
Brady  
Moreno  
Austin

Week 17:  
Freeman  
AP  
Steve Smith (CAR)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/323 "2012-12-20T16:25:48Z")

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[del]eli manning, philip rivers, drew brees, aaron rodgers, matt ryan, matt schaub, josh freeman, peyton manning, carson palmer, andrew luck, tom brady, andy dalton, tony romo, matt stafford, cam newton

kevin smith, adrian peterson, michael bush, marshawn lynch, arian foster, ryan mathews, chris johnson, reggie bush, lesean mccoy, stevan ridley, jamaal charles, frank gore, bryce brown, ahmad bradshaw, mikel leshoure

andre johnson, steve smith i, marques colston, roddy white, julio jones, percy harvin, vincent jackson, reggie wayne, brandon marshall, aj green, wes welker, danario alexander, hakeem nicks, calvin johnson, cecil shorts[/del]

week 16:  
Sam Bradford  
DeAngelo Williams  
Danny Amendola

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/324 "2012-12-20T16:28:17Z")

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Week 14

QB Josh Freeman  
RB: Trent Richardson  
WR: Lance Moore

189/2=94.5 +42 +26=162.5

Week 15  
QB: Russell Wilson  
RB: Jamaal Charles  
WR: Julio Jones

205/2=102.5 +10 + 74=186.5  
Yeah, two lousy weeks.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/325 "2012-12-20T23:26:22Z")

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**Week 16 Picks**

QB: Robert Griffin III  
RB: Alfred Morris  
WR: Julio Jones

**Previous Picks**

QB: Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Joe Flacco, Andrew Luck, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Cam Newton, Carson Palmer, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford, Michael Vick  
RB: Jamaal Charles, Matt Forte, Arian Foster, Frank Gore, Ronnie Hillman, Fred Jackson, Steven Jackson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Marshawn Lynch, Doug Martin, LeSean McCoy, Darren McFadden, Ray Rice, Trent Richardson  
WR: Justin Blackmon, Dez Bryant, Marques Colston, Victor Cruz, AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Stevie Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Jordy Nelson, Steve Smith, Demaryius Thomas, Mike Wallace, Wes Welker, Roddy White

> [@](#):
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> **Week 15 Scores**
> 
> QB: Josh Freeman = 279  
> RB: Ryan Matthews = 22  
> WR: Vincent Jackson = 81

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/326 "2012-12-23T11:30:34Z")

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I have a weird request, that should probably be denied, but anyway, here goes.

I had my last 3 weeks of the season planned out - set out a spreadsheet with remaining players and matchups, and barring injury had all 9 remaining picks done. My remaining picks were Stafford and Johnson in week 16, and Ryan and Marshall in week 17. But I fucked up - I had no idea there was a saturday game this week, and especially that it involved 2/3rds of my picks.

It’s plausible that I’m telling the truth - those players are the highest yardage remaining players out of the ones I’ve played at their position, and it’s plausible that I’d want Stafford and Johnson against the Falcons rather than the Bears in week 17. Similarly, I wouldn’t have wanted to use Marshall this week against Arizona. And I’d rather save Ryan for week 17 against the week Tampa Bay defense at home. So just looking at the players I’ve saved up from the last 2 weeks, and their matchups, you’d conclude that I’d probably use Stafford and Johnson tonight.

But I didn’t - I fully intended to announce their names in my post tonight when I was surprised to see the game had already played.

So anyway, I’m hoping you guys would be willing to cut me a break and allow me to pick them retroactively. If you think I’m lying or if we should just have a hard and fast rule, that’s fine. In fact, it would be nice if people could chime in and say they’d be okay with it. If not, I won’t do it. Cause it’s a big difference, combined it would be a huge week.

Anyway, I’ll make 2 picks this week, a pick as I had planned it out before, and a contingency pick of what I’ll do if the league doesn’t approve of it.

My original week 16 picks would’ve been

Stafford  
Moreno  
Megatron

My revised picks would be  
Roethlisberger  
Moreno  
Marshall

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/327 "2012-12-23T11:47:34Z")

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[Spreadsheet updated](http://www.senorbeef.net/sdmb/YardageComp2012.htm)

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/328 "2012-12-23T14:44:14Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> So anyway, I’m hoping you guys would be willing to cut me a break and allow me to pick them retroactively. If you think I’m lying or if we should just have a hard and fast rule, that’s fine. In fact, it would be nice if people could chime in and say they’d be okay with it. If not, I won’t do it. Cause it’s a big difference, combined it would be a huge week.

I don’t have a problem with it. Unless RNATB really fucks up his last six picks, we’re all playing for second place anyway.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/329 "2012-12-23T17:23:05Z")

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QB:John Skelton/Andy Dalton/Jay Cutler/ Joe Flacco/Peyton Manning/Kevin Kolb/Cam Newton/Matt Ryan/Drew Brees/Tom Brady/Andrew Luck/Aaron Rodgers/Tony Romo/Josh Freeman/Russell Wilson

RB: Ben Tate/Michael Turner/CJ Spiller/M.Bush/Arian Foster/Marshwan Lynch/ MJD/Matt Forte/Doug Martin/Ray Rice/LaRod Stephens-Howling/Chris Johnson/Adrian Petersen/Trent Richardson/Jamaal Charles

WR: Andre Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald/Wes Welker/Brandon Marshall/AJ Greene/Percy Harvin/Stevie Johnson/Victor Cruz/Demaryius Thomas/Vincent Jackson/Reggie Wayne/Randall Cobb/Dez Bryant/Lance Moore/Juilo Jones

Week 16:

QB: RG III  
RB: Beanie Wells  
WR: Steve Smith (Carolina)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/330 "2012-12-23T17:55:51Z")

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Last minute switch to Doug Martin, either scenario.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/331 "2012-12-23T18:51:12Z")

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Used:  
QB: Matt Stafford, Cam Newton, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Matt Schaub, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Mike Vick, Tony Romo, Drew Brees, Robert Griffin III, Nick Foles, Andrew Luck, Josh Freeman  
RB: Matt Forte, Darren McFadden, C.J. Spiller, Frank Gore, Arian Foster, Ryan Matthews, Maurice Jones-Drew, Jamaal Charles, Marshawn Lynch, LeSean McCoy, Stevan Ridley, Chris Johnson, Alfred Morris, Adrian Peterson, Doug Martin  
WR: DeSean Jackson, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Malcolm Floyd, Brandon Marshall, Demarius Thomas, Wes Welker, Randall Cobb, Vincent Jackson, Mike Wallace, A.J. Green, Roddy White, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson

Week 16:  
Jay Cutler  
Ray Rice  
Victor Cruz  
Week 17:  
Tom Brady  
Knowshon Moreno  
Marques Colston

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/332 "2012-12-24T01:48:16Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> [del]eli manning, philip rivers, drew brees, aaron rodgers, matt ryan, matt schaub, josh freeman, peyton manning, carson palmer, andrew luck, tom brady, andy dalton, tony romo, matt stafford, cam newton
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> kevin smith, adrian peterson, michael bush, marshawn lynch, arian foster, ryan mathews, chris johnson, reggie bush, lesean mccoy, stevan ridley, jamaal charles, frank gore, bryce brown, ahmad bradshaw, mikel leshoure
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> andre johnson, steve smith i, marques colston, roddy white, julio jones, percy harvin, vincent jackson, reggie wayne, brandon marshall, aj green, wes welker, danario alexander, hakeem nicks, calvin johnson, cecil shorts[/del]
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> week 16:  
> Sam Bradford  
> DeAngelo Williams  
> Danny Amendola

Oh, sweet fuck. 119/2 + 29 + 5 = **93.5**.

AARGH.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/333 "2012-12-26T23:27:44Z")

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I don’t want to abuse my position as scorekeeper so I’d ask more if you to proactively confirm you’d be okay with the proposal in post 326. I realize that such a request would be pretty ridiculous most of the time, but only the unusual circumstances of having the last 2 weeks, where it’s really obvious that I was saving 2 of the highest yardage guys for these matchups in warm weather/dome in the last 2 weeks makes it pretty clear that I’m telling the truth since it would be the obvious play. But anyway, my fault for not getting it in on time, so I’ll stick with my contingency picks if I have to.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/334 "2012-12-27T14:28:36Z")

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I don’t have a problem with it.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/335 "2012-12-29T12:12:50Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I don’t have a problem with it. Unless RNATB really fucks up his last six picks, we’re all playing for second place anyway.

It actually makes a pretty huge difference, as RNATB had an awful week 16 and I would’ve had a great one - it actually closes the gap.

I updated the [spreadsheet](http://www.senorbeef.net/sdmb/YardageComp2012.htm).

I’m actually going to make two sets of picks for week 17 - the ones I had planned to make, and also the ones I’d make if the stafford/johnson thing were null and void (basically picking them again in week 17 if I couldn’t use them in week 16) - this way you can just decide for yourselves which score is legitimate, since I feel weird about the whole thing either way.

But if we were using the stafford/johnson numbers, barring error I would actually take the lead. The numbers would be:

1. SenorBeef 5214
2. RNATB 5206
3. Wilson 4710
4. Justin Bailey 4641
5. VarlosZ 4432
6. Omniscient 4294
7. Dale42j 4185

Varlos is actually missing week 16. It doesn’t cripple him since that just becomes his dropped week, but he can make it up by making 2 picks this week.

Please check for errors.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/336 "2012-12-29T16:52:57Z")

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**Week 17 Picks**

QB: Matt Schaub  
RB: Chris Johnson  
WR: Brandon Marshall

**Previous Picks**

QB: Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Joe Flacco, Robert Griffin III, Andrew Luck, Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Cam Newton, Carson Palmer, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford, Michael Vick  
RB: Jamaal Charles, Matt Forte, Arian Foster, Frank Gore, Ronnie Hillman, Fred Jackson, Steven Jackson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Marshawn Lynch, Doug Martin, LeSean McCoy, Darren McFadden, Alfred Morris, Ray Rice, Trent Richardson  
WR: Justin Blackmon, Dez Bryant, Marques Colston, Victor Cruz, AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Stevie Johnson, Julio Jones, Jeremy Maclin, Jordy Nelson, Steve Smith, Demaryius Thomas, Mike Wallace, Wes Welker, Roddy White

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/337 "2012-12-30T14:17:55Z")

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Week 17

Matt Ryan  
Moreno  
Brandon Marshall  
Alternate picks (if I couldn’t use these players for week 17)  
Matthew Stafford  
Moreno  
Calvin Johnson

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/338 "2012-12-30T17:14:27Z")

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QB:John Skelton/Andy Dalton/Jay Cutler/ Joe Flacco/Peyton Manning/Kevin Kolb/Cam Newton/Matt Ryan/Drew Brees/Tom Brady/Andrew Luck/Aaron Rodgers/Tony Romo/Josh Freeman/Russell Wilson/RG III

RB: Ben Tate/Michael Turner/CJ Spiller/M.Bush/Arian Foster/Marshwan Lynch/ MJD/Matt Forte/Doug Martin/Ray Rice/LaRod Stephens-Howling/Chris Johnson/Adrian Petersen/Trent Richardson/Jamaal Charles/Beanie Wells

WR: Andre Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald/Wes Welker/Brandon Marshall/AJ Greene/Percy Harvin/Stevie Johnson/Victor Cruz/Demaryius Thomas/Vincent Jackson/Reggie Wayne/Randall Cobb/Dez Bryant/Lance Moore/Juilo Jones/Steve Smith

Week 17:

QB:Michael Vick  
RB: Alfred Morris  
WR:Miles Austin.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/339 "2012-12-30T19:30:50Z")

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eli manning, philip rivers, drew brees, aaron rodgers, matt ryan, matt schaub, josh freeman, peyton manning, carson palmer, andrew luck, tom brady, andy dalton, tony romo, matt stafford, cam newton, sam bradford

kevin smith, adrian peterson, michael bush, marshawn lynch, arian foster, ryan mathews, chris johnson, reggie bush, lesean mccoy, stevan ridley, jamaal charles, frank gore, bryce brown, ahmad bradshaw, mikel leshoure, deangelo williams

andre johnson, steve smith i, marques colston, roddy white, julio jones, percy harvin, vincent jackson, reggie wayne, brandon marshall, aj green, wes welker, danario alexander, hakeem nicks, calvin johnson, cecil shorts, danny amendola

week 17:  
Ryan Tannehill  
Knowshon Moreno  
Dez Bryant

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition-2012/633614/340 "2012-12-31T02:31:28Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
>
> I don’t want to abuse my position as scorekeeper so I’d ask more if you to proactively confirm you’d be okay with the proposal in post 326. I realize that such a request would be pretty ridiculous most of the time, but only the unusual circumstances of having the last 2 weeks, where it’s really obvious that I was saving 2 of the highest yardage guys for these matchups in warm weather/dome in the last 2 weeks makes it pretty clear that I’m telling the truth since it would be the obvious play. But anyway, my fault for not getting it in on time, so I’ll stick with my contingency picks if I have to.

I believe you, and honestly the result doesn’t impact me in any way, but I don’t really think you deserve to get those starts. I’ve pretty much missed the opportunity to use Thursday night players every week due to life and poor planning getting in the way. Plenty of others have dropped the ball and forgot to post picks until after the kickoff of the early games with no recourse.

_Of course_ we’d planned to start Brees against the Bucs defense this week, but damn it we forgot to get those picks in in time. Rinse, lather, repeat. Part of the game is planning and being organized, something I’m personally AWFUL at. Thems the breaks.

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