# NFL Yardage Pool competition **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 9, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386 "2009-09-09T03:22:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/221 "2009-11-16T23:41:16Z")
Gee, I thought you were talking about my two consecutive weeks of exactly 400 yds. When I started tallying my total for this week, (QB and RB were my first lookups), I thought I had a good chance for a third consecutive week at exactly 400 yds. Hines Ward was amjor disappointment. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/222 "2009-11-17T00:09:07Z")
Last week I said this: > [@Omniscient](#): > > I seem to have a knack for picking the right QB in a given week but totally fail at picking the rest. This week I was rewarded with this: > [@Omniscient](#): > > Used Players: > QB - Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, Matt Schaub, Mark Sanchez, Ben Roethlisberger, David Garrard, Matt Hasselbeck > RB - Thomas Jones, Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown, Maurice Jones-Drew, Donald Brown, Matt Forte, Frank Gore > WR - Marques Colston, Roy Williams, Santonio Holmes, Larry Fitzgerald, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Miles Austin, Vincent Jackson > QB - Aaron Rodgers > RB - Ricky Williams > WR - Braylon Edwards 189 + 102 + 79 = 370 Well, shit! I feel like next year we need to do something to normalize the disparity in QB scoring and RB/WR scoring. A bad QB week completely offsets all your scoring from the other positions. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/223 "2009-11-17T00:30:38Z")
Our average yards per week by position, through Week 9, not counting Omni’s picks (as he missed a week and it’s just easier to exclude him in this calculation): QB: 271.6 RB: 75.1 WR: 66.9 That disparity should come down a bit as the weather gets worse and people run out of elite QBs. Still, multiplying RB/WR yardage by 2.5 or 3 (or dividing QB yardage by same) might not be a bad idea for next season. Maybe. It’s not quite as simple as that, because the average isn’t the only thing that matters. That QBs puts up more yards makes them more important, but that they’re more consistent (it’s harder for us to pick a QB who’s going to stink up the joint) means their replacement level is higher, and that makes them less important. Maybe multiplying by 2 or even 1.5 would be better. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/224 "2009-11-17T01:21:49Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Well, shit! I feel like next year we need to do something to normalize the disparity in QB scoring and RB/WR scoring. A bad QB week completely offsets all your scoring from the other positions. Well, not really. I’m in the middle of the pack vis-a-vis QB yardage. I’m in first place thanks to my wideout scoring. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/225 "2009-11-17T01:34:41Z")
That’s why I have a seperate listing for score by yardage type. You can think of it as 3 mini yardage competitions if you’d like. Buty yeah next year we can double the over values or something. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/226 "2009-11-17T12:58:16Z")
Brett Favre - 344 Ray Rice - 89 Wes Welker - 94 lieu - Week 10: **527** ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/227 "2009-11-19T07:39:17Z")
Why do they need to label him “Roy E. Williams” on stats pages? Are we going to think the Bengal’s injured safety put up 100 receiving yards for the Cowboys? Standings are [updated](http://members.cox.net/senorbeef/SDMByardagecomp.htm). Week 10 scores: 1. SenorBeef 686 2. Lieu 527 3. notfrommensa 377 4. Varlos 370 5. Omni 370 6. RNATB 345 7. Wilson 304 If you want someone involved in the Thursday night game, make the pick before kickoff. Now I’ll let you guys know I’ve been tanking this season just to lull you into a false sense of security and let you make fun of me until I come back in the end and win it. It’s 600+ point weeks from here on out from me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/228 "2009-11-19T14:48:40Z")
I think there’s an error in there somewhere. I was ~200 yards ahead of **lieu** after last week’s games and I gave up slightly under 200 yards to his this week, but I’m down by 80. The rows and columns add up correctly though. 😕 Anyway, on with the show! [del]Matt Hasselbeck, Santonio Holmes, Cedric Benson, Kurt Warner, Clinton Portis, Andre Johnson, Matt Schaub, Ryan Grant, Reggie Wayne, Kerry Collins, Darren McFadden, Jerricho Cotchery, Tony Romo, Rashard Mendenhall, Roddy White, Tom Brady, Maurice Jones-Drew, Nate Burleson, Ben Roethlisberger, Thomas Jones, Wes Welker, David Garrard, Kevin Smith, Steve Smith (CAR), Peyton Manning, Brandon Jacobs, Vincent Jackson, Drew Brees, Thomas Jones, Greg Jennings[/del] Eli Manning Chris Johnson Santana Moss ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/229 "2009-11-19T14:51:36Z")
Could it be that the lowest scoring week dropped changed or something? I don’t remember what the scores were before so I’m not sure what changed. If you look through and see some sort of error I can correct it. I didn’t do anything unusual this week, just added the new scores. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/230 "2009-11-19T14:54:28Z")
The spreadsheet doesn’t have the lowest scoring week dropped, as far as I can tell. Was it supposed to? The columns all added up normally. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/231 "2009-11-19T15:00:35Z")
There’s an “adjusted” column below the total column that drops the lowest week, and that’s our official score. Maybe you’re mixing that total up with the unadjusted total from previous weeks? I don’t have a backup spreadsheet every week so I can’t compare what has changed since then, but I didn’t do anything except add this week’s scores. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/232 "2009-11-19T15:02:24Z")
Yes, that’s exactly what I did - I didn’t scroll down all the way. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/233 "2009-11-19T18:57:32Z")
[del]Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Matt Schaub, Donovan McNabb, Philip Rivers, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Brett Favre Thomas Jones, Adrian Peterson, Brandon Jacobs, Chris Johnson, Rashard Mendenhall, Cedric Benson, DeAngelo Williams, Steven Jackson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Ray Rice Marques Colston, Terrell Owens, Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, Mohammed Massaquoi, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, Miles Austin, Vincent Jackson, Wes Welker[/del] Week 11 Kurt Warner Ricky Williams Andre Johnson ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/234 "2009-11-21T19:05:11Z")
Used Players: QB - Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, Matt Schaub, Mark Sanchez, Ben Roethlisberger, David Garrard, Matt Hasselbeck, Aaron Rodgers RB - Thomas Jones, Ryan Grant, Cedric Benson, Ronnie Brown, Maurice Jones-Drew, Donald Brown, Matt Forte, Frank Gore, Ricky Williams WR - Marques Colston, Roy Williams, Santonio Holmes, Larry Fitzgerald, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Miles Austin, Vincent Jackson, Braylon Edwards QB - Brett Favre RB - Rashard Mendenhall WR - Andre Johnson ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/235 "2009-11-21T19:38:46Z")
[del]QB: Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, Matt Schaub, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Donovan McNabb, Peyton Manning, Phillip Rivers RB: LaDanian Tomlinson, Adrian Peterson, Ryan Grant, Brandon Jacobs, Jerome Harrison, Maurice Jones-Drew, DeAngelo Williams, Stephen Jackson, Michael Turner, Ray Rice WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, Santonio Holmes, Chad Ochocinco, Brandon Marshall, Steve Smith 1.0, Steve Smith 2.0, Miles Austin, Andre Johnson, Donald Driver[/del] Joe Flacco Rashard Mendenhall Wes Welker ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/236 "2009-11-22T01:03:46Z")
Week 11 - K Warner R Mendenhall C Ochocino ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/237 "2009-11-22T02:13:01Z")
I wonder how secure **RNATB** ’s and **lieu** ’s margin over the field is. For instance, I’m in 3rd place, 231 points behind **RNATB**. That might not seem like much, since it can be realistically made up in just one week, but with seven weeks remaining it means I have to beat him by an \*average \*of 33 points per week (while also dodging some third party’s hot streak). So if we were laying odds, I wonder what they’d look like. RNATB has been about 34 points above average per week, so even assuming he’s totally average the rest of the way, I’d have to be as far above the pack over the last 7 weeks as he has been the first 10 (and everyone else besides \*\*lieu \*\*has even further to go). As a mitigating factor, as we run out of premium players, there should be more variance. That is, there will be more RBs/WRs who put up \<20 yards in a given week, and more QBs throwing up 150s and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/238 "2009-11-22T02:23:55Z")
If I were betting I might actually go with **lieu**. He hasn’t had a really bad week, while I have, so the dropped week is helping me a great deal and hardly helping him at all. However, it’s likely that both of us will have at least one really bad week going forward, and mine will count against my score, while his will not. On the other hand, I’ve also saved myself quite a few premium players, including Rodgers, Rivers, Randy Moss and Adrian Peterson. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/239 "2009-11-22T14:39:36Z")
Matt Schaub Bernard Scott Sidney Rice Still need picks from notfrommensa. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386/240 "2009-11-22T17:01:20Z")
New strategy, wait to the last minute. Weeks 1-10 (so I don’t repeat) [del]Passing - Tom Brady, Kyle Orton, Joe Flacco, Jay Cutler, Peyton Manning, Matt Schaub, Brett Favre, Philip Rivers, Curt Warner, Tony Romo Rushing - Reggie Bush, Ray Rice, Ray Rice, Chris Johnson, Adrian Petersen, Cedric Benson, Ryan Grant, Thomas Jones, Mike Bell, Ronnie Brown Receiving - Terrell Owen, Tim Hightower, Dallas Clark, Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith (NYG) , T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Andre Johnson, Antonio Gates, Larry Fitzgerald, Hines Ward[/del] Week 11 Passing - Aaron Rodgers - GB Rushing - Steven Jackson - STL Receiving - Randy Moss - NE [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-yardage-pool-competition/509386.md?page=13)