# NFP: Man killed for desecrating Qur'an. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 22, 2005, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564 "2005-04-22T06:40:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/1 "2005-04-22T06:40:20Z")
Reported in Dawn of April 21, 2005: A man, during a domestic dispute, was said to have desecrated a copy of the Qur’an which his wife brought out upon which to swear an oath. When this news reached the mullah, he declared the man an infidel “kaafir” and punishable by death for his act of blasphemy. Thereupon, a mob of about 400 went after the man. Despite pleading for his life and climbing up a tree, the man was shot dead. The man’s family refused to accept the body, stating that they will not accept the body of an infidel. No arrests have been made. The specific mullah who declared him an infidel is unknown. WRS - Welcome to Pakistan ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/2 "2005-04-22T06:42:16Z")
Reported in Dawn of April 21, 2005 and April 22, 2005: When a delegation from the Pakistani parliament reached Belgium en route to London to meet with members of the EU, delegation member “Maulana” (indicating the person is a cleric) Samiul Haq was detained. The EU announced it will not meet with Haq, citing his affliation with Jamaat-e-Ulema Islam, a somewhat extremist religious party. As expected, Pakistan lodged a strong protest. MMA demanded EU representatives in Pakistan be expelled. Yada yada yada. But for once the EU made a smart decision and stood up against extremist elements in Pakistan. WRS - Welcome to Pakistan ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/3 "2005-04-22T06:44:14Z")
Reported in Dawn of April 22, 2005: A tailor, 60 years old, was beaten, stripped, and tied to a pillar for 10 hours on suspicion that he was going to steal the tap for a mosque’s “sabeel” (water for the public). He came to visit a client and while waiting for his client, he drank some of the water. Some people came out of the mosque and thought he was trying to steal the tap. They grabbed him, beat him, stripped off his clothes, and tied him to a pillar. This occured in front of the Eidhi Foundation’s office in the locality. When Mr. Abdul Sattar Eidhi - a well-known philanthropist - went to his office and saw this spectacle, he tried, in vain, to come to the man’s rescue. Neither he nor his volunteers were able to persuade the people to let the man go and let the police handle the issue. They told him to mind his own business and not to interfere. Finally, the police had to be called. Clothes were provided for the man by the Edhi Foundation. The man also claimed he was robbed of 450 ruppees during his ordeal. The newspaper reported that “No arrest was made till late on Thursday.” WRS - Welcome to Pakistan ---
**Author:** ![6\_6\_6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e0b2c6/32.png) [@6\_6\_6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6_6_6)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/4 "2005-04-22T07:01:02Z")
I think the thread title’s misleading. He was accused of stealing the **tap** \*, not the **water**. (Not that that legitimises the mob’s actions) \ ***faucet** for our American cousins. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/5 "2005-04-22T08:56:15Z")
Even Saudis think Pakistanis are a bit over-the-top in the religious law department. ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/6 "2005-04-22T12:27:42Z")
> [@Paul in Saudi](#): > > Even Saudis think Pakistanis are a bit over-the-top in the religious law department. Wow. If the Wahhabi _Saudis_ think Pakistanis are over the top, then Pakistanis are definitely doing something wrong. I wonder why Pakistan is so messed up. (And I seriously doubt the Zionists/imperialists/Americans/capitalists/communists/socialists are involved.) WRS ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/7 "2005-04-22T12:47:42Z")
I suppose the violence comes from the conflict between uber-traditional hinterlands and fairly modern city people. But I bow to your expertise on all things Pakistani. ---
**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/8 "2005-04-22T14:54:33Z")
Not meaning to blame the victim understand but… why the fuck did he climb a tree? ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/9 "2005-04-22T15:52:55Z")
> [@Gest](#): > > Not meaning to blame the victim understand but… why the fuck did he climb a tree? Because there weren’t any flagpoles? ---
**Author:** ![Dancer\_Flight](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dancer_flight/32/7601_2.png) [@Dancer\_Flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dancer_Flight)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/10 "2005-04-22T16:02:03Z")
> [@Gest](#): > > Not meaning to blame the victim understand but… why the fuck did he climb a tree? To avoid a beating? If you are surrounded by many men bent on beating you to death, one goes where multitudes cannot simultaneously follow. Obviously this then leaves you vulnerable to being shot out of your perch. He probably took the best option he had. -DF ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/11 "2005-04-22T17:12:08Z")
A-yup. It seems the guy was running away from the mob to avoid being beaten to death. A mob of 400 is certainly something one will want to escape from. And a mob of 400 cannot en masse climb a tree. But someone in a mob of 400 can shoot the poor victim down. Pakistanis are insane. Well, not all. Just the non-urban ones. WRS ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/12 "2005-04-22T17:44:45Z")
**WeRSauron** , I’m not sure of your intended purpose for the three threads you started with the differing stories illustrating outrageous behavior in Pakistan (i.e., whether you wanted a general discussion or eventually a debate), but since the OPs of all three threads were just repostings of the stories and no real initial comments on your part, I merged the three threads into one. - SkipMagic ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/13 "2005-04-22T18:01:54Z")
Ah, sorry. Just wanted to post some news from Pakistan (hence the NFP) so that people can get an idea of how things are crazy in the Third World. WRS ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/14 "2005-04-22T18:11:37Z")
No worries. We just saw all three threads and thought we’d tidy up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/15 "2005-04-22T20:43:30Z")
> [@WeRSauron](#): > > Just wanted to post some news from Pakistan (hence the NFP) so that people can get an idea of how things are crazy in the Third World. I’m not sure that the Third World gets to claim that title on their own. [Church Youth Group Leader Accused of Abuse](http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/4406091/detail.html?subid=22100408&qs=1;bp=t) [Woman who finds finger in chili arrested for attempted grand larceny](http://wcco.com/water/watercooler_story_112083622.html) [Potential Juror fined for yawning](http://wcco.com/water/watercooler_story_110091358.html) and [People gather to see Virgin Mary shaped salt-stain](http://wcco.com/water/watercooler_story_110084148.html) ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/16 "2005-04-23T03:22:48Z")
Indeed. But these do not involve mobs killing or torturing people for what seem to be frivolous reasons. WRS ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/17 "2005-04-23T12:03:10Z")
> [@Tastes of Chocolate](#): > > I’m not sure that the Third World gets to claim that title on their own. > > [Church Youth Group Leader Accused of Abuse](http://www.thekcrachannel.com/news/4406091/detail.html?subid=22100408&qs=1;bp=t) > > [Woman who finds finger in chili arrested for attempted grand larceny](http://wcco.com/water/watercooler_story_112083622.html) > > [Potential Juror fined for yawning](http://wcco.com/water/watercooler_story_110091358.html) > > and [People gather to see Virgin Mary shaped salt-stain](http://wcco.com/water/watercooler_story_110084148.html) I don’t know how any of that compares to 400 people forming a lynch mob for what seems like a pretty minor transgression. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/18 "2005-04-23T13:38:51Z")
The things people will do for a higher power. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/19 "2005-05-07T14:16:15Z")
According to [url=http://www.dawn.com/2005/05/07/top6.htm]_Dawn_, the Pakistani Embassy protested a seemingly anti-Pakistani cartoon in the Washington Times. Well, at least they get a bit of their own medicine. Pakistani newspapers always publish anti-US, anti-Israeli cartoons. WRS ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564/20 "2005-05-07T18:33:47Z")
Speaking with all love and respect, **WeRSauron** (and I do mean that, honest), what’s your beef with Pakistan lately? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfp-man-killed-for-desecrating-quran/300564.md?page=2)