# NHL 103 (2019/2020 season) pre-season thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 15, 2019, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538 "2019-06-15T04:10:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/121 "2019-09-11T14:09:49Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Ah yes - taking out a page from the venerable books of Rob Blake and Scott Stevens.🙂

not Nik’s fault players keep skating with their heads down.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/122 "2019-09-12T01:17:41Z")

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No kidding, and with players like Taylor Hall (who’s bad with skating with his head down), I’m sure there will be more Kronwalling in the future.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/123 "2019-09-12T02:20:55Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> No kidding, and with players like Taylor Hall (who’s bad with skating with his head down), I’m sure there will be more Kronwalling in the future.

oh, ok, I didn’t realize the league was supposed to anoint potential superstars as “untouchable.”

that’ll really make the game great.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/124 "2019-09-12T02:57:06Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> oh, ok, I didn’t realize the league was supposed to anoint potential superstars as “untouchable.”
> 
> that’ll really make the game great.

:rolleyes: I’m not implying that, nor trying to pass judgement in any way. _Obviously_ just a perfectly neutral (actually leaning to quite appreciative) observation.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/125 "2019-09-12T17:48:33Z")

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[Shea Theodore won’t be suiting up for the Knights for a bit as he recovers from testicular cancer](https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/shea-theodore-nhl-vegas-golden-knights).

The team, the game and the fans will still be here, Mr. Theodore; take your time and heal.

And from reading that article, the team really seems like a great group of people. Not just the players, but the entire organization.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/126 "2019-09-12T23:39:29Z")

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What a great article, **Snowboarder Bo**. Thanks for linking to it. I hope Mr. Theodore’s good luck continues.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/127 "2019-09-12T23:55:09Z")

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I don’t recall this many high quality RFAs still unsigned on training camp day one (which is basically medical):

Mitch Marner  
Matthew Tkachuk  
Charlie McAvoy  
Brayden Point  
Mikko Rantinen  
Patrik Laine  
Kyle Connor  
Brock Boeser  
Ivan Proverov

The agents couldn’t care less if their clients miss TC - and hell, part of the season - in order to get a price they want. William Nylander last season was a unfortunate example of this.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/128 "2019-09-13T04:31:35Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> What a great article, **Snowboarder Bo**. Thanks for linking to it. I hope Mr. Theodore’s good luck continues.

You’re welcome. At the start of the Knight’s 3rd season, I am super-impressed by the lack of ego and the excess of goodwill that our players seem to have. I mean, I know it’s hockey and not basketball or the NFL, but the Knights were very fortunate to amass so many players who come across as good-natured, positive-outlook people. It’s still a competitive sport, but thus far the Knights have avoided having any jerks on the team. I don’t think it’s all luck, tho: I give a lot of credit to team management for their draft and trade choices, as I presume that “non-jerkishness” is a factor they consider when selecting players.

I’ve never been to any other team’s hockey practices, but Knight’s practices are like huge parties. We’ve sung Happy Birthday to players and coaches. We’ve had them clown around for us, specifically for the crowd, during practices. I’ve seen Nate Schmidt get mildly reprimanded for staying on the ice to talk to kids when he was supposed to be starting a new drill. They all just seem like genuinely nice people.

So yeah, we all hope that Mr. Theodore’s recovery continues unabated and he’s back on the ice doing what he loves ASAP.

Thanks for wishing him well!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/129 "2019-09-13T22:40:59Z")

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We are less than 48 hours from NHL pre-season hockey! WOOT!

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/130 "2019-09-14T01:26:57Z")

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The Toronto Maple Leafs and star forward Mitch Marner have agreed on a six-year, $65.358 million contract extension, according to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger.

The deal has an average annual value of $10.893 million.

ETA: Sooooo relieved!

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/131 "2019-09-14T02:11:31Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> We are less than 48 hours from NHL pre-season hockey! WOOT!

Indeed, and Dallas actually gets two preseason broadcasts!

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/132 "2019-09-14T02:16:54Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> The Toronto Maple Leafs and star forward Mitch Marner have agreed on a six-year, $65.358 million contract extension, according to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger.
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> The deal has an average annual value of $10.893 million.
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> ETA: Sooooo relieved!

But zero cap space, even after those $13mil in LTIR contracts get taken off.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/133 "2019-09-14T03:20:44Z")

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> [@dogbutler](#):
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> But zero cap space, even after those $13mil in LTIR contracts get taken off.

Yeah, so? They can afford it.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/134 "2019-09-14T04:05:14Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Yeah, so? They can afford it.

True. I’m just bitter no one is paying me $13mil to not play hockey.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/135 "2019-09-14T04:09:50Z")

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Me too! I don’t play hockey for free right now, but I’m willing to listen to any offers to take my not playing hockey to the next level! I’m passionate about this, and dedicated, and I know I could not play hockey with the best of them!

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/136 "2019-09-14T04:26:30Z")

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I’m Brian, and so’s my wife!

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/137 "2019-09-14T12:32:50Z")

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hey, at least they’re not spending 5-6 million a year each on guys like Abdelkader, Nielsen, Ericsson, and DeKeyser.

(best thing I heard about what led to Ken Holland being kicked upstairs- “How can a team be in the middle of a rebuild but bumped up against the salary cap?”)

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/138 "2019-09-14T13:10:35Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’m Brian, and so’s my wife!

[del]Welease[/del]Buy out Bwian!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/139 "2019-09-14T15:25:04Z")

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> [@tim-n-va](#):
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> Cocaine is not considered performance enhancing by the NHL. Kuznetsov apparently will meet with the commissioner. No suspension is expected.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> [Wanna bet?](https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2019/08/23/evgeny-kuznetsov-receives-four-year-suspension-by-iihf-after-testing-positive-for-cocaine/) :dubious:

> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> TNV was referring to the NHL.

[Capitals’ Evgeny Kuznetsov suspended 3 games by NHL](https://apnews.com/2a6ad1bb7ae74689b376d2dbb3708ec4)

> [@](#):
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> Washington Capitals forward Evgeny Kuznetsov has been suspended without pay for three regular-season games by the NHL for inappropriate conduct. The decision comes less than a month after he was banned from playing for Russia for four years because of a positive test for cocaine.
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> The NHL announced its punishment Saturday, saying it followed a meeting with Commissioner Gary Bettman on Monday. The league said Kuznetsov would not appeal.

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**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-103-2019-2020-season-pre-season-thread/835538/140 "2019-09-15T03:37:37Z")

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[NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO](https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-players-planning-lockout-signing-bonuses/)

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