# NHL April 2018 & post-season

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 2, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611 "2018-04-02T00:27:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/321 "2018-06-13T16:51:18Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> **Leaffan** , that’s terrible to hear.
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> Well I came in here to post that I think Ovi also wins the “NHL 100 Quote of the Year” contest:Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there!
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> Great job, Ovi & teammates! Enjoy your time with the Cup!

Close… But it’s even better in Russenglish:

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> “We’re not going to be fucking suck this year… We’re the Stanley Cup champions!”

[Watch 78seg | Streamable](https://streamable.com/78seg) (NSFW language)

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/322 "2018-06-13T17:31:39Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Ottawa has two first round picks this year.

Sorry Rysto. I see you actually typed NEXT year.  
My mistake.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/323 "2018-06-13T22:20:02Z")

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The longer the police investigation goes on in Ottawa the more of a cloud hangs over the franchise, especially with any upcoming off-season activity. Quite something that this goes back to _November_. Not sure how much toxicity that would create in the dressingroom, but manoman - quite shitty.

Heh - I still think of Karlsson’s miraculous alley-oop pass right on to Hofffan’s stick at the opposite blue-line for that snazzy breakaway goal.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/324 "2018-06-14T01:16:08Z")

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Curious if anyone other than Ovi has hoisted the Cup in the last, oh, 144-odd hours.

I guess the Cup’s making the rounds with individual players now - maybe Ovi stays with the Cup (with sole hoisting duties) no matter who the player is, even Backstrom.

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**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/325 "2018-06-14T14:28:07Z")

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Nathan Walker’s great aunt in Cardiff: “And who is this, Natey?”  
Nathan Walker: “That’s Alex, Aunty. He’s staying with us for a few days.”

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/326 "2018-06-18T19:21:42Z")

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Got my photo with the cup and Barry Trotz steps down. I’ll return the photo.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/327 "2018-06-19T04:44:05Z")

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> [@tim-n-va](#):
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> Got my photo with the cup and Barry Trotz steps down. I’ll return the photo.

There was talk near the end of the season that even with a Cup win, Trotz could quite likely still walk.

I wonder if money would still have been an issue with Trotz if Ovi had been eight, even five years younger.

Well, Barry, we [hardly knew ye…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsPbBLvZkg)

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/328 "2018-06-19T05:24:31Z")

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Trotz deserves a much bigger contract than Washington is offering him.  
End of story.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/329 "2018-06-19T15:12:22Z")

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> **[Winger Mike Hoffman traded twice, lands with Panthers](https://apnews.com/ea8f02a884a4461db453486236a36959/Sharks-acquire-winger-Mike-Hoffman-from-Senators)**
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> The Ottawa Senators traded winger Mike Hoffman on Tuesday, hoping to solve an ugly off-ice issue involving star defenseman Erik Karlsson and his wife. The Senators sent Hoffman to the San Jose Sharks, who then dealt him to the Florida Panthers. All...

The Senators traded Mike Hoffman to San Jose who immediately sent him to Florida. Florida gets a scoring winger cheap, but he comes with a lot of potential headaches as well. Or maybe he broke up with his fiancee? 😃

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/330 "2018-06-19T18:08:40Z")

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We knew either Hoffman or Karlsson would be traded.

Heck, Karlsson may also still be traded.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/331 "2018-06-19T18:22:23Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Trotz deserves a much bigger contract than Washington is offering him.  
> End of story.

I don’t know; while the team should have held up their end better, Trotz is not blameless. While he probably does deserve more than the Caps were offering, the fact is the bounces just went their way this year, and I don’t really think you can give Trotz credit for that. This was a lesser team than the past two that destroyed _everyone_ in the regular season, easily winning the President’s Trophy back-to-back, then losing to the Pens in the second round each time. He’s got to own that, too.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/332 "2018-06-19T20:23:04Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> We knew either Hoffman or Karlsson would be traded.
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> Heck, Karlsson may also still be traded.

Aye; scuttlebutt places him Las Vegas by Saturday.

ETA: I think Trotz deserved a good offer after sticking it out and finally bringing the Cup home as coach, but if he wants to rest on his laurels, I think that’s fine too. Most people seem to need other people to set a goal for them, maybe Mr. Trotz is realizing he doesn’t need that after all.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/333 "2018-06-19T20:35:02Z")

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Barry Trotz has a son with Down’s syndrome. I think he’s trying to maximize his income to set his son up for life. He’ll probably take another job somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/334 "2018-06-19T22:07:49Z")

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Wow, did the Sens ever throw Hoffman under the bus.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/335 "2018-06-19T22:09:36Z")

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I thought about my nitpicking this, because it’s irrelevant to the discussion, but this is The Dope after all. It’s “Down Syndrome.”

Apologies for the nitpick.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/336 "2018-06-19T22:10:39Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Wow, did the Sens ever throw Hoffman under the bus.

Did they have a choice? No.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/337 "2018-06-19T22:44:59Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Did they have a choice? No.

Did they have a choice to trade him? I agree, they did not have a choice. He had to go, but did the Sens have to say?

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> showcases our determination to strengthen the future of the team by improving chemistry, leadership and character in the locker room and on the ice.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/338 "2018-06-19T23:17:33Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Did they have a choice to trade him? I agree, they did not have a choice. He had to go, but did the Sens have to say?

Ouch. You’re right.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/339 "2018-06-20T01:34:53Z")

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Maybe Florida will indecorously taxi Hoffman off to Las Vegas.😃

Forgot: here’s Hoffman’s farewell tweet to San Jose:

> <https://twitter.com/timandsid/status/1009162131478999040>

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2018-post-season/811611/340 "2018-06-20T15:14:55Z")

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It is risky to try to guess at motivations but I’ll do it. Some of the reporting suggests that Trotz was not happy coaching with an expiring contract. He wanted a longer contract than the Caps were willing to give. Money per year was not the ultimate obstacle.

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