# NHL April 2019/ Playoff Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 2, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923 "2019-04-02T15:04:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/461 "2019-05-31T13:05:43Z")
Sundquist was simply going in to finish his check like any other player would - Grzelcyk turned to face the boards at the last second, which is wrong, making himself totally vulnerable for what happened to him, and leaving no time, at all, for Sundquist to make any adjustment as he came into Grzelcyk. Obviously it was shitty what happened to Grzelcyk, but the refs made the correct two-minute penalty call. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/462 "2019-05-31T13:12:36Z")
I struggled with the replay for quite a while and I have to agree with you, **G-s: Id**. I didn’t see him throw an elbow, in fact it looked like it was his shoulder that actually made contact. And it all came from the awkward way that Grzelcyk went in to the boards with his head down and off-balance and the way he came up just as Sundqvist got to him. Helluva smack for Grzelcyk, but I didn’t think it was conscious effort on Sundqvist’s part that caused it. [/shrug] ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/463 "2019-05-31T16:43:38Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I struggled with the replay for quite a while and I have to agree with you, **G-s: Id**. I didn’t see him throw an elbow, in fact it looked like it was his shoulder that actually made contact. And it all came from the awkward way that Grzelcyk went in to the boards with his head down and off-balance and the way he came up just as Sundqvist got to him. Helluva smack for Grzelcyk, but I didn’t think it was conscious effort on Sundqvist’s part that caused it. > > [/shrug] I also agree. ---
**Author:** ![ThisSpaceForRent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisspaceforrent/32/345_2.png) [@ThisSpaceForRent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisSpaceForRent)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/464 "2019-05-31T17:28:46Z")
Stay classy St Louis…We got this. Blues are a DEEP team both on O and D. One game without Oscar will NOT be the end of the series. Lets Go BLUES. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/465 "2019-05-31T17:57:13Z")
FFS. Game 3 of this series and game 2 of the NBA finals are on at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/466 "2019-05-31T18:39:54Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > FFS. Game 3 of this series and game 2 of the NBA finals are on at the same time. Well, you really only need to watch the last 2 minutes of the basketball game anyway. (D&R) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/467 "2019-05-31T18:42:56Z")
I know which game Charles Barkley will be watching! ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/468 "2019-05-31T19:51:38Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > FFS. Game 3 of this series and game 2 of the NBA finals are on at the same time. Actually Ike, the NBA game is Sunday night, my friend just told me. I verified on TSN: hockey tomorrow, and Raptors on Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/469 "2019-05-31T22:14:17Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Actually Ike, the NBA game is Sunday night, my friend just told me. I verified on TSN: hockey tomorrow, and Raptors on Sunday. Yeah, I see that now. It really didn’t make sense that the games would be on opposite each other. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/470 "2019-05-31T22:31:48Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I struggled with the replay for quite a while and I have to agree with you, **G-s: Id**. I didn’t see him throw an elbow, in fact it looked like it was his shoulder that actually made contact. And it all came from the awkward way that Grzelcyk went in to the boards with his head down and off-balance and the way he came up just as Sundqvist got to him. Helluva smack for Grzelcyk, but I didn’t think it was conscious effort on Sundqvist’s part that caused it. I don’t see an elbowing either. But isn’t it boarding regardless of what part of Sundqvist lead the hit? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/471 "2019-06-01T00:12:19Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > I don’t see an elbowing either. But isn’t it boarding regardless of what part of Sundqvist lead the hit? Na. Boarding is more of “a leave your feet to fuck someone up.” This was just a normal check where the person being checked turned awkwardly at the last second. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/472 "2019-06-01T01:32:27Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > I don’t see an elbowing either. But isn’t it boarding regardless of what part of Sundqvist lead the hit? > [@Leaffan](#): > > Na. Boarding is more of “a leave your feet to fuck someone up.” This was just a normal check where the person being checked turned awkwardly at the last second. It became boarding when Grzyclek got himself off-balance and out-of-control, apparently: > [@NHL Rules](#): > > A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently or dangerously. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee. BUT, the rule does note: > [@](#): > > The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize contact. However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, **including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered**. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule. [2018/2019 NHL Rulebook](http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2018-2019-NHL-rulebook.pdf) (.pdf, natch) ---
**Author:** ![ThisSpaceForRent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisspaceforrent/32/345_2.png) [@ThisSpaceForRent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisSpaceForRent)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/473 "2019-06-01T03:40:45Z")
Krug “left his skates” a LOT more than Oscars hit… But All will be well… Lets Go BLUES ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/474 "2019-06-01T14:11:42Z")
What I found way more concerning was when Krug first lost his helmut, and the [multiple instances](https://youtu.be/6qRnOAVdGEM?t=27) where he could’ve taken a skate blade to the head/face area. Saw a hilarious tweet of side-by-side photos of Krug going airborne, and Bobby. NHL is now considering a rule that you immediately come off the ice after losing your helmut. Like the broken stick rule - _immediately_ dropping it - a good one. For boarding, another major determinant is simply whether or not you hit him squarely on the numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/475 "2019-06-02T01:07:51Z")
Nine seconds left in the first period. Boston did NOT have control of that puck as it crossed the line. Why was that not brought back as offside? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/476 "2019-06-02T01:39:23Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Nine seconds left in the first period. Boston did NOT have control of that puck as it crossed the line. > > Why was that not brought back as offside? I believe that he did have control of the puck. Of course I am a Stars fan and Hull had control of the puck as well (1999). ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/477 "2019-06-02T01:42:21Z")
I remember that non-goal well. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/478 "2019-06-02T03:04:09Z")
Something I was wondering… Blues were down 5-2 halfway thru the third period and were playing 4 on 3 after a couple penalties… why not pull the goalie and have a 5 on 3 advantage for the duration of the power play? What have you got to lose at that point? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/479 "2019-06-02T03:34:39Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Something I was wondering… Blues were down 5-2 halfway thru the third period and were playing 4 on 3 after a couple penalties… why not pull the goalie and have a 5 on 3 advantage for the duration of the power play? What have you got to lose at that point? Good point. ---
**Author:** ![ThisSpaceForRent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisspaceforrent/32/345_2.png) [@ThisSpaceForRent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisSpaceForRent)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923/480 "2019-06-02T22:49:41Z")
I am late to game 3 comments cause I was getting my ass kicked at work last night. OT (I am GM at a very popular St Louis Pizzeria, NY style not St Louis style) Damn…Where the fuck were the heads of the blues players last night? (semi rhetorical question) I LOVE the Blues…but, Come on boys, that is not SCF play! Lets Go Blues [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-april-2019-playoff-thread/831923.md?page=25)