# NHL: November 2009

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 4, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243 "2009-11-04T02:34:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/81 "2009-11-24T02:55:16Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> Laraque deserved a suspension, IMHO. But 5 games? The guy who slammed the other guy into the boards last week, causing the other guy to kind of spin around like a top as he fell over in slow motion…he only got two games. A sprained knee is easier to fix than a concussion, and has fewer long-term effects. Though actually I don’t think suspensions should be handed out based on the severity of the injury, but on the action that led to it, though I recognize the difficulty in drawing that line. I also think Liambas shouldn’t have had a season-long ban, despite the severity of the injury to Fanelli.
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> My friends shows up to the gym today, all distressed…“Y’on échangé mon beau Guillaume!” She’s quite upset about this little development, until someone pointed out to her that Pouilot is also French-Canadian, and kinda cute! Note that my friend is a die-hard Habs fan and actually knows the game inside and out, but even she is swayed by the cute ones!

Not sure if it matters much, but although Pouliot’s French-Canadian, he’s not a Quebecois. He’s close though; he’s from Alfred, Ontario, a small town on (the former) Highway 17 between Ottawa and the Quebec border.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/82 "2009-11-24T03:28:09Z")

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So apparently Ottawa starting goaltender Pascal Leclaire has broken his jaw in a game he didn’t even appear in. For fuck’s sake, I knew that he was injury prone, but this is ridiculous.

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> A sprained knee is easier to fix than a concussion, and has fewer long-term effects.

A knee-on-knee hit like that can easily result in a torn ACL, which can take 6-10 months to recover from. The NHL needs to come down hard on those.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/83 "2009-11-24T03:51:11Z")

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> [@KennerTheGreat](#):
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> Not sure if it matters much, but although Pouliot’s French-Canadian, he’s not a Quebecois. He’s close though; he’s from Alfred, Ontario, a small town on (the former) Highway 17 between Ottawa and the Quebec border.

Yeah, we knew that, and no, it doesn’t really matter other than giving a small amount of pride that the Canadiens have at least some French-Canadian players. It’s just fun to cheer for the “local” guy, for some people. She’d rather have an ugly anglo/allophone who can score than a cute francophone who can’t on the team, but if there’s a chance of getting a cute francophone who can score…well, that’s just a bonus, right? 😃

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> So apparently Ottawa starting goaltender Pascal Leclaire has broken his jaw in a game he didn’t even appear in. For fuck’s sake, I knew that he was injury prone, but this is ridiculous.

Wow, that sucks! Poor guy!

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> A knee-on-knee hit like that can easily result in a torn ACL, which can take 6-10 months to recover from. The NHL needs to come down hard on those.

But it didn’t result in a torn ACL, just an MCL sprain. But still, that’s not really the point…I dislike Laraque anyways and wouldn’t mind if he never came back, and it was a pretty dirty hit, except that I think it’s bizarre to give 5 games for this, and 2 for that hit I mentioned…it just seems so arbitrary and inconsistent. Which is what a lot of people are complaining about, I think. Come down on hits like that, sure, but do it the same way every time.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/84 "2009-11-24T03:53:43Z")

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Toronto got 61 shots, and they still, somehow, lost.

I’m beginning to wonder if the Leafs are really a hockey team, or some sort of performance art troupe, a kind of travelling mass Andy Kaufman-style thing where they’re trying to enrage the audience.

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/85 "2009-11-24T18:55:56Z")

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I wonder if any Leaf fans are pining for the Ballard days. At least you knew where the buck stopped with him.

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/86 "2009-11-25T03:03:07Z")

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Another win for our boys tonight, beating our former backup Mathieu Garon in a 5-3 victory over Columbus.

Nash crunches Moen from behind, gets no penalty. Moen gets up, takes a poke at Nash, who ducks out of the way, and Moen gets two for roughing.

Price was awesome tonight!

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/87 "2009-11-25T03:19:27Z")

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Price kept them in the game through the first, once again!He earned that first star! But midway through the second, the Habs finally showed up and man, were they _hungry!_ They just dominated from that point on!

And I agree, the refs sucked tonight. They also missed the slash on AK46 (do we need to specify which AK anymore?), and the stick to Pyatt’s face. No consistency in the refereeing at all.

Free wings at La Cage aux Sports tonight!

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**Author:** ![KennerTheGreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a8b319/32.png) [@KennerTheGreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennerTheGreat)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/88 "2009-11-25T03:31:11Z")

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The Leafs are announcing that Toskala’s going to miss a week or so with a groin injury. I didn’t catch the last game against the Islanders, but a guy at work was saying that it looks like after the Isles blitzed him for three goals in a little over three minutes in the second, Toskala skated over to Wilson and basically said “Frig it, I’m done for tonight.” Was it apparant that Toskala really did tweak something, or does anybody else think he was just pulling a chute?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/89 "2009-12-11T03:58:29Z")

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Now Dan Cleary is out for at least a month. The Wings are going to have to muddle their way through with rookies and extra playing time . It will develop players faster., if they can hold on and make the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/90 "2009-12-11T04:03:25Z")

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**psstt…it’s [December](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=542097)now…**\*

😃

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2009/516243/91 "2009-12-15T15:57:14Z")

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Fuckin christ. Ericsson is out now too. Its a damn good thing the Wings built up the ‘overripe’ farm system, those guys are now the core of the team. And they are filling in with cast offs who couldn’t sign this year. Soon they’ll have to sign Gordie again, just to fill out 4 lines.

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