# NHL November 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 2, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937 "2013-11-02T18:32:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/1 "2013-11-02T18:32:13Z")

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Here’s a thread to discuss the NHL action for this month.

I’m disgusted by the actions of Flyer’s goalie Ray Emery. I know many people like goalie fights, but Capitals goalie Braden Holtby didn’t seem to want any part of Emery last night. Emery should get at least a 5 game suspension for this nonsense.

The Flyers also got their butts kicked in the game, losing 7-0

[Link](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/wp/2013/11/02/braden-holtby-ray-emery-brawl-as-capitals-win-turns-into-fight-night-in-philadelphia/)

I also agree that the Stars play by play team is excellent, I believe they’re the only group that does both radio and TV. Since they’re broadcasting radio, they don’t go off on dumb tangents like many of the the TV only broadcasters.

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**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/2 "2013-11-02T19:47:58Z")

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Absolutely disgusting. I’m a Caps fan, but I don’t think I’m being biased here… Holtby made it clear he didn’t want to fight (Emery admitted as much in a post-game interview), and didn’t get most of his goalie gear off. Emery still jumped him and repeatedly hit him in the back of the head. It was pure, unadulterated goonery. I’m seeing even most Flyers fans agree. But I have read a few “well that’s just hockey” comments, but that’s bullshit. Even in the “good old days” of more violent hockey, that sort of shit wouldn’t have stood. I think some people have watched Slap Shot one too many times and have come to believe that hockey used to actually be like that.

The referee (or, linesmen, I guess?) also needs disciplined for not stepping in.

Unfortunately, it looks like Emery might get completely away with it: [“Nothing scheduled at the moment”](https://twitter.com/ChuckGormleyCSN/status/396638319448059905)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/3 "2013-11-03T00:58:29Z")

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Naturally, Emery is starting in goal tonight. He should be suspended for at least 5 games, and I wouldn’t be mad if it was 10. Obviously, the Flyers want him to let in another 7 goals tonight. I wish Kovalchuck was still with the Devils to humiliate Emery tonight.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/4 "2013-11-03T01:04:51Z")

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Emery’s an asshole. He was an asshole when he played in Ottawa, and he’s still an asshole.

He used to be late for practices, missed flights, and even (allegedly) staged an accident on the way to the airport when he knew he’d be late for a flight so he’d have an excuse.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/5 "2013-11-03T01:15:19Z")

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Grantland wrote a piece saying anyone 4 pts out is toast.

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**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/6 "2013-11-03T04:18:09Z")

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And Emery shuts out the Devils, disproving the existence of bad karma.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/7 "2013-11-03T05:52:52Z")

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Jeff Zatkoff got his first NHL win tonight – and it was a shut out too! Pretty sweet. It also looked to me like there were more Pens fans in attendance there than Blue Jackets fans.

I like a good goalie fight, but only when both parties are willing (much like any hockey fight). What Emery did was assault – why the fucking isn’t he being suspended? Stay classy, Flyers!

(It was good to see them get beaten 7-0, even if it was by the Caps)

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/8 "2013-11-07T01:37:40Z")

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At what point do the Oilers give up on the current make up of the team? All those number one picks and they still can’t play consistent hockey. Or rather they do, it is just consistently bad.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/9 "2013-11-07T02:17:10Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> At what point do the Oilers give up on the current make up of the team? All those number one picks and they still can’t play consistent hockey. Or rather they do, it is just consistently bad.

I don’t see them often enough to make a call, but on paper their goal tending looks very suspect.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/10 "2013-11-07T03:09:10Z")

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Well, the Pens have done what I thought was impossible: made the Rangers look awesomely good.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/11 "2013-11-07T03:50:15Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> Well, the Pens have done what I thought was impossible: made the Rangers look awesomely good.

Awe, what a shame. 😉

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/12 "2013-11-08T13:56:44Z")

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A little late but regarding the goalie fight… Apparently giving up four goals and then fighting an unwilling participant earns you one of the stars of the game in Philadelphia.

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**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/13 "2013-11-08T15:34:36Z")

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> [@tim-n-va](#):
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> A little late but regarding the goalie fight… Apparently giving up four goals and then fighting an unwilling participant earns you one of the stars of the game in Philadelphia.

That’s because the Philly journalist who was deciding the three stars of the night is a troll:

> <https://twitter.com/DNFlyers/status/396449216555282433>

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/14 "2013-11-08T23:37:43Z")

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What else can you expect from the Flyers?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/15 "2013-11-09T17:28:46Z")

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Bryzgalov to the Oilers, this should be fun.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/16 "2013-11-11T21:40:55Z")

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Lightning fans and all of Canada wince as Stamkos gets stretchered off the ice.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/17 "2013-11-13T03:03:03Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Lightning fans and all of Canada wince as Stamkos gets stretchered off the ice.

I’m holding out that he’ll be OK come Olympics. (Fingers crossed)

Flyers are killing the Senators. Awe c’est dommage.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/18 "2013-11-13T16:00:45Z")

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Apparently the Wings have decided that winning is fascist, are are going to try to make the playoffs by getting one point in an OT/SO loss every game.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/19 "2013-11-13T19:11:41Z")

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Wow, Buffalo.

Welcome back to the NHL Ted Nolan, it has been far too long.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-november-2013/672937/20 "2013-11-13T19:44:32Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Wow, Buffalo.
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> Welcome back to the NHL Ted Nolan, it has been far too long.

Yeah sure, the week they have a home-and-home vs. the Leafs.

I had actuality forgotten all about Ted Nolan. Welcome back indeed. The Buffalo fans will go nuts Friday night.

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