# NHL Oct. 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 3, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868 "2017-10-03T14:05:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/41 "2017-10-12T00:31:35Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> I guess because he’s too good? Tired of my teams losing to him. I’ve been a Dallas Stars fan for the past few years (and the whole hockey world knows of our goalie troubles), so I tend to be resentful of good goaltenders. Now that we have Ben Bishop standing big and tall in net, maybe I can get back to admiring other good goalies.

Cool. Just make sure to keep this away from **Snoboarder Bo** and **Guinistasia!:eek:**

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/42 "2017-10-15T17:32:09Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Hoping all the insane young talent on the Jets (Patrik Laine, Mark Scheifele, and Kyle Connor) take off even more crazily this season.

:smack::smack::smack: Wow - leaving the stu_pend_ous Nikloaj Ehlers out of that list is maybe the most embarrassing mistake I’ve made here the dope.

Finally got around to seeing the majority of a game with my universally-adored Canucks, and realise that it’s going to be another one of _those_ seasons again. After having the second-longest ever NHL sell-out streak (474 games, from '02 to '14), it was strange seeing all those empty seats, and I gotta admit I didn’t make a point of catching every single game last season.:o

Blowing a whole bunch of 5-on-3’s, porous defense (I’ll be expecting relatively big things from Hutton and Stecher this season - both very capable, tremendable, even! youngsters), and an offense that I can sum up by saying that their grand total goals scored this season (8) is one less than Ovie’s (9), all tells me that coach Green might be a beleaguered one this season.

And captain Henrik getting - what? - three minors _all in the third period_? 😕

They were playing Calgary, and so watched Jagr keenly and saw that he still needs to get back in shape. Kinda understandable, with him having only a week, so far, to get back in shape again, and also the minor issue of him being the third-oldest NHL’er ever, at 45.

He also likes cats too, which is ok with me.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/43 "2017-10-15T17:38:52Z")

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Marc-Andre Fleury has been placed on IR by the Vegas Golden Knights, supposedly with concussion symptoms. I"m quite eager to see Malcom Subban, and not just for fantasy purposes. Still, this sucks for Vegas, they’ve been a pleasant surprise so far.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/44 "2017-10-20T02:55:11Z")

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[One](http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/connor-mcdavid-completes-insane-assist-against-chicago-blackhawks-edmonton-oilers/lj7rynundjey1ls1lgribcrgk) of many reasons why Connor McDavid can do no wrong.  
(scroll down just a wee)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/45 "2017-10-22T05:29:55Z")

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The Knights are now 6-1-0 with 12 points and perfect in 3 overtimes. That’s a solid start for any team; for an expansion team it’s a helluva beginning.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/46 "2017-10-22T07:10:32Z")

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I miss Flower. ☹ (Yes, I know we couldn’t afford to keep him. But surely they can get Murray a decent back up!)

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/47 "2017-10-23T07:44:39Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The Knights are now 6-1-0 with 12 points and perfect in 3 overtimes. That’s a solid start for any team; for an expansion team it’s a helluva beginning.

I can’t seem to locate a better start for an expansion team (hmmm might not be those newbies we all know and love - the '74-'75 Capitals, who went 8 W, 67 L, 5 T for a whopping 21 points in 80 games.:p)  
I’d like to see an expansion team, for a change, establish themselves as legitimate contenders from their inaugural season, onward, but the odds are formidable, and I obviously wouldn’t put money on the Knights continuing at their current torrid pace. Fleury seems quite happy there, and if he stays healthy and confidence is high, and James Neal can fire up the team (a bit on his shoulders, here) then I look forward to their season.

A little dicey with Fleury indefinitely sidelined with the scariest of injuries - concussion, while Malcolm Subban is on the IR for about four weeks with a lower body injury, so let’s hope Oscar Dansk for the Chicago Wolves can keep the VGK afloat.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I miss Flower. ☹ (Yes, I know we couldn’t afford to keep him. But surely they can get Murray a decent back up!)

And in the meantime, pray Murray doesn’t get a major sidelining injury - Niemi has been a mystery since Dallas last season where he was puddly-goo and now as a Pen double-puddly-goo, not even worth the $750,000 for one year. Even the no. 3 - Tristan Jarry - has a .883 save pct. and 3.96 GA down in Wilkes Barre, so, one could call that “a position of interest” in Pittsburgh.  
huh - goalie woes everywhere.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/48 "2017-10-23T14:08:14Z")

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Good Lord but the Coyotes have to be one of the most pathetic professional sports franchises in North America. They’ve started their season with eight straight losses. Attendance is bad. They don’t know where they’re going to end up playing. Their release of Shane Doan was a PR fiasco. Move the damn team already.

My apologies to any Coyotes fans but we have fans in Canada drooling for a team.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/49 "2017-10-23T19:12:54Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Good Lord but the Coyotes have to be one of the most pathetic professional sports franchises in North America. They’ve started their season with eight straight losses. Attendance is bad. They don’t know where they’re going to end up playing. Their release of Shane Doan was a PR fiasco. Move the damn team already.
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> My apologies to any Coyotes fans but we have fans in Canada drooling for a team.

Nothing about the Coyotes has made sense in at least a decade. The new arena was placed in an awful area for commuting during the week. Most of the more affluent population in the Phoenix area lives in the eastern portion of the cities and suburbs which are even further east. The drive across the entire valley is pure hell on a weekday. Yes, i know ‘real fans’ don’t bitch about the drive, but it took me an hour the one time I went to a weeknight game. Admittedly, the area immediately around the arena was an up and coming development, but it quickly became ground zero for the housing crisis with a massive amount of foreclosures and houses deep under water.

The Phoenix area is mainly transplants. The NBA Suns have gotten some loyalty, but they’ve also been there as the first pro team in the state and also the NBA has a younger fanbase. Of course, the Suns also play downtown. The Cardinals and D-backs still often feature a crowd of 50% of the fans rooting for the opposing team, and that’s with the Cards and D-backs having some recent success.

I"m not at all optimistic about Vegas either, but at least the hockey has been fun to watch, although losing two goalies in October isn’t going to help at all and I’m afraid the Golden Knights are going to crash back down to reality. NHL history is full of teams with a hot October that didn’t even sniff the playoffs.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/50 "2017-10-25T05:23:49Z")

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:eek:

Wow.

A 4-2 win over the Blackhawks, with a goalie who had only played about 9 minutes in the NHL before tonight. Who wasn’t even on our team, technically, until there were about 9 minutes left in the game with St. Louis the other night. And the win puts the team at 7-1-0, by far the best start ever for an expansion team in the NHL. Freaking amazing!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/51 "2017-10-25T06:22:16Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> And in the meantime, pray Murray doesn’t get a major sidelining injury - Niemi has been a mystery since Dallas last season where he was puddly-goo and now as a Pen double-puddly-goo, not even worth the $750,000 for one year. Even the no. 3 - Tristan Jarry - has a .883 save pct. and 3.96 GA down in Wilkes Barre, so, one could call that “a position of interest” in Pittsburgh.  
> huh - goalie woes everywhere.

Well I don’t think we have to worry about that for the time being, since Niemi’s been claimed off waivers by Florida, and we just called up Casey DeSmith. Murray was in fine form tonight, and Kessel got the OT goal. Yay!!!

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/52 "2017-10-31T05:13:16Z")

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Patrick Marleau back in San Jose tonight. Nice to see him. Everyone in the arena was excited to see him. He was warmly welcomed.

Sharks played a good game tonight. Nice win.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-oct-2017/797868/53 "2017-10-31T05:29:16Z")

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The Knights are on their 5th goalie and we’re only 10 games into the season. At this rate, the team will have had 40 goalies by the end of the regular season.

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