# NHL/Olympic Hockey:  February 2010

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 1, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237 "2010-02-01T14:44:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/121 "2010-02-22T03:38:36Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> I notice you conveniently left out how the US ran right through Brodeur just before the 3rd American goal.

blame that shit on Pronger. The American player was pushed into Brodeur because the veteran Pronger did it. I thought it was a non call too and was pissed but seeing the replay Pronger was backing up and sort of causing the interference.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/122 "2010-02-22T03:39:54Z")

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I didn’t think Brodeur was sharp at all. Seriously, is he the best Canadian goaltender? I’ve never been a fan of his, he can look great some nights and like crap on other nights.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/123 "2010-02-22T03:41:00Z")

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> [@BMada](#):
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> blame that shit on Pronger. The American player was pushed into Brodeur because the veteran Pronger did it. I thought it was a non call too and was pissed but seeing the replay Pronger was backing up and sort of causing the interference.

That’s what I thought when I saw it at full speed, but when I saw the replay I clearly saw the American backing up without being touched.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/124 "2010-02-22T03:42:23Z")

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Well, the reffing was still better than average. I thought they let the players dictate the flow of the game rather than blowing whistle after whistle.

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**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/125 "2010-02-22T03:50:12Z")

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I thought that last tripping penalty called on Erik Johnson looked kinda weak (was that Patrick Marleau that was supposedly tripped)? I don’t think I saw the replay on that but at the time it seemed like an even-up call to me. Either way I wouldn’t complain about the officiating overall.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/126 "2010-02-22T03:53:03Z")

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> [@Sidney Evgeni Jordan](#):
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> I thought that last tripping penalty called on Erik Johnson looked kinda weak (was that Patrick Marleau that was supposedly tripped)? I don’t think I saw the replay on that but at the time it seemed like an even-up call to me. Either way I wouldn’t complain about the officiating overall.

It was absolutely a good call, but they got the wrong man. Drury literally had his stick in Marleau’s skates.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/127 "2010-02-22T03:57:08Z")

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yea, wrong person got the penalty, replay showed the stick lodged in his skate. The penalty was warranted though.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/128 "2010-02-22T03:59:35Z")

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> [@BMada](#):
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> yea, wrong person got the penalty, replay showed the stick lodged in his skate. The penalty was warranted though.

What I don’t get is how the ref could possibly get the wrong guy. I mean, a player trips over a stick and the stick gets torn out of somebody’s hands. How hard can it possibly be to figure out who did it?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/129 "2010-02-22T04:02:54Z")

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> [@BMada](#):
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> It was an awesome game, sad outcome for Canadians, but an awesome game none the less. If Canada loses early, I guess I’ll be cheering for USA. Seriously, the old defensemen sucked balls too. Pronger, Neidermayer coughing up the puck and in bad position. The so-called veterans were craptastic.

Pronger was terrible in 2006 in Turin. Why they continue putting him on the team I will never understand.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/130 "2010-02-22T04:07:53Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Pronger was terrible in 2006 in Turin. Why they continue putting him on the team I will never understand.

it’s because he has “experience”… he’s slow, short-tempered (i.e. easily prone to retaliation penalties, and overrated. What balances it out is “leadership”, “work ethic”, “experience” and all those other stupid stuff.

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**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/131 "2010-02-22T04:11:21Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> What I don’t get is how the ref could possibly get the wrong guy. I mean, a player trips over a stick and the stick gets torn out of somebody’s hands. How hard can it possibly be to figure out who did it?

They should’ve fixed the player who got the penalty but E. Johnson did help the tripping too. He took a swing at the skates. The swing plus the stick in the guy’s skates precipitated the trip. Only one guy took the fall and the obvious stick in guy’s skate player wasn’t the guy going into the penalty box.

We need the NHL hockey games to be this intense every game.

Another funny thing to add in today’s Toronto Sun. One writer wrote, paraphrasing.

" The Maple Leafs are undefeated in nine days, it’ll reach eighteen soon"

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/132 "2010-02-22T06:21:59Z")

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And Finland is putting up t one of the worst power play performances I’ve seen, including the two most tentative and uninspiring 5 on 3s in history.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/133 "2010-02-22T06:24:52Z")

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Oh, my, that was a great game to watch. Miller played his ass off (Rafalski, too.)

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/134 "2010-02-22T18:04:36Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Too many chiefs not enough Indians syndrome?
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> I have no idea when Rafalski turned into Bobby Orr, But I hope he keeps it up for a few more games and then months.

Besides Luc Robitaille (in 2006), this the only other Red Wing I’ve rooted for, EVER. Good for him.

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> Nice little laugh with the Keystone cops routine, almost decapitating the ref then taking out two other of his teammates.

Ah, the Triple Crowned Line.

That game lived up to the hype. Very much an all-star game with definitive incentives that made them play hungry. I guess Team USA wanted more than appetizers though.

Question: Did anyone see if there were any players from the same NHL team going at each other’s throats during that game?

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**Author:** ![cuberdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cuberdon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuberdon)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/135 "2010-02-22T18:41:20Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Question: Did anyone see if there were any players from the same NHL team going at each other’s throats during that game?

Looking at the rosters, here are the NHL teams which have sent players to both Team USA and Team Canada.

Anaheim  
Boston  
Chicago  
Los Angeles  
Nashville  
New Jersey  
Pittsburgh  
San Jose  
Vancouver

So it is certainly possible.

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**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/136 "2010-02-22T18:43:31Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Question: Did anyone see if there were any players from the same NHL team going at each other’s throats during that game?

I wouldn’t exactly call it “going at each other’s throats,” but Sidney Crosby was called for a high stick on Brooks Orpik, his NHL teammate.

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**Author:** ![cuberdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cuberdon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuberdon)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/137 "2010-02-22T18:45:08Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> These two teams(US and Canada) can still meet in a gold medal match, right?

Yes, it is possible, though Canada would now have to win in a play-off qualification match in addition to quarterfinals and semifinals.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/138 "2010-02-22T18:52:27Z")

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> [@BMada](#):
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> i think our goaltending is gonna fail in huge proportions. I really hope Luongo, Brodeur and Fleury can handle the offensive power of the nations with firepower. If the Olympics is a gauge of who has the hottest goaltender then it’ll be tough to beat Ryan Miller of USA.

Well done, lad, well done ! 😉

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/139 "2010-02-22T19:26:01Z")

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> [@Sidney Evgeni Jordan](#):
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> I wouldn’t exactly call it “going at each other’s throats,” but Sidney Crosby was called for a high stick on Brooks Orpik, his NHL teammate.

I believe that was more coincidental rather than intentional on Crosby’s part.

For the Kings and Ducks, I believe there were no players involved. Just wondering if any NHL teammates got so overly emotional in that game that they did something that might become an issue when they got back to their team(s) after the Olympic break.

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-olympic-hockey-february-2010/527237/140 "2010-02-22T19:46:49Z")

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From [here:](http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Hockey-hate-fest-Canada-doesn-t-mind-U-S-playe?urn=nhl,221078)

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> “Absolutely,” said defenseman Jack Johnson of the Los Angeles Kings, who offered to fly out his three Team USA teammates to see his appearance in the Opening Ceremony but didn’t extend the same courtesy to Team Canada’s Drew Doughty, also of the Kings.

The article goes on to talk about the ‘hate’ between teams. But nothing specific between players for the same team.

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