# NHL Playoffs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 12, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862 "2009-04-12T17:50:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/321 "2009-05-19T04:26:37Z")

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I liked the game. Even though Carolina lost, I thought it was good.

No really dirty things, the refs made sure of that in the first period, but then they let them play.

But it’s only game one.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/322 "2009-05-19T04:32:35Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#):
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> Pens get first game. Canes could have tied but Staal misdirected the puck to Fleury and not into the net.

They play better with their backs to the wall, anyways.

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/323 "2009-05-19T11:08:20Z")

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Canes-Pens is shaping up to be another entertaining series. Of course, as a Penguins fan, I’m hoping for only another 3 games in the series, but I think this one’s going at least 6. Fleury was outstanding last night.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/324 "2009-05-20T01:03:42Z")

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Cleary scores! 2-1 Wings. Hard hitting game.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/325 "2009-05-20T02:06:00Z")

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OVERTIME!!! 🙂 :smack: :mad: (take your pick)

Man, that was a great third period. Khabibulin really earned his pay in that period.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/326 "2009-05-20T02:12:23Z")

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As a Wings fan, I hate overtime.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/327 "2009-05-20T02:27:53Z")

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As I said, As a Wings fan I love overtime.😉

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/328 "2009-05-20T02:27:58Z")

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😃 ← My pick. Wings 2-0 now.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/329 "2009-05-20T02:36:40Z")

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And no surpise that it was an odd man rush that led to the game winning goal. Now that I think about it, a breakaway also led to Cleary’s goal. Hmmm. Guess what I think Chicago needs to do to win game 3. Gonna be hard though. The Hawk’s D are offensive in nature. They want to win games 5-4 rather than 3-1. Khabibulin better get ready for at least two more rough nights.

On the other end, Detroit needs to CLEAR THE PUCK!!! Shot after shot after shot after shot after shot after shot. Get the puck on the other side of the blue line. It looked like Chicago was on the power play for half the game.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/330 "2009-05-20T03:03:51Z")

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I think those hard shots are working against the Hawks. The rebounds lead to Detroit breakaways. Detroit has capitalized on at least 3 breakaways this series. The Wings are being more surgical with offense.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/331 "2009-05-20T03:19:36Z")

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That extended puck control sequence by the Hawks in the 3rd, which lead to the tying goal, really impressed me. But twice they got sloppy at the opposing blue line and gave up two goals.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/332 "2009-05-21T23:46:21Z")

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There goes Crosby, poaching again.

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/333 "2009-05-22T02:00:02Z")

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Whoa! Malkin gets a hatrick off some weird, blind, backhand shot. Right off the faceoff he won no less. 6-4 Pens, 7 minutes left.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/334 "2009-05-22T02:08:29Z")

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I have to give credit where due…that was one awesome shot.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/335 "2009-05-22T02:12:45Z")

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Its over. Pens score empty net. 2-0 Pens.

Canes mucking it up.

Where did **Leaffan** go?

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/336 "2009-05-22T02:29:27Z")

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Okay, \*now \*it’s over. Pens 2-0.

Let’s just see what happens down in Carolina where the goals can’t be finer…

Oh, yeah, and that on the spin-no look-backhand hat trick shot by Malkin? Dare I say that was Jordan-esque.

(heh - the announcer on Vs. just called that goal “filthy”)

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**Author:** ![MTRG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@MTRG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTRG)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/337 "2009-05-22T02:35:42Z")

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> [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](#):
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> Crosby? Meh. The Washington Post (and VerSus as well) did a graphic on where Crosby scores his goals. Most of them are either in the goal crease or within 2 feet. He’s a poacher. Only one of his playoff goals came from further than 20 feet of the goal.

Malkin’s goals were within 2 feet of the goal. by this logic, Malkin is also a poacher.

Yeah, he’s probally over-rated , too :rolleyes:

Normally, I enjoy the hockey talk, enjoy getting other points of view from around the hockey world, but, I read this last week and it stuck with me.  
Why would how they get the job done matter? There are so many aspects of the player’s game that influences wether they are a game breaker or considered “great”

Both these players get the job done.

> [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](#):
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> There goes Crosby, poaching again.
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> Sheesh.

OK , we get it, you think that Crosby is a poacher…

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/338 "2009-05-22T02:42:30Z")

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> [@MTRG](#):
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> Malkin’s goals were within 2 feet of the goal. by this logic, Malkin is also a poacher.
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> Yeah, he’s probally over-rated , too :rolleyes:
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> Normally, I enjoy the hockey talk, enjoy getting other points of view from around the hockey world, but, I read this last week and it stuck with me.  
> Why would how they get the job done matter? There are so many aspects of the player’s game that influences wether they are a game breaker or considered “great”
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> Both these players get the job done.

You’ve missed the entire point: the leading goal scorer in the playoffs has no skill, he just steals skill from everyone else.

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**Author:** ![MTRG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71c47a/32.png) [@MTRG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTRG)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/339 "2009-05-22T02:58:56Z")

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No skill…right. Got it. (taking notes)

Ya know, during the regular season, Crosby was more assists than goals. He made those around him better. But, he was overrated cause he wasn’t the one putting it in the net.

Now, he is scoring more goals, and the only explanation from the loser’s bench is that he is poaching.

Guess you can’t please all the people all the time.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/340 "2009-05-22T04:13:33Z")

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I guess I do not have as great knowledge of the english language as I thought I did. I seem to be misunderstood many times.

The original statement was made to compare Ovechkin vs. Crosby while they played in the semis.

The latter statement was made to reinforce the idea that the majority of Crosby’s goals come from near the crease. He doesn’t have the shooting ability that Ovechkin does (as he does not regularly score from other areas).

I’m not saying that Crosby doesn’t have skills as a hockey player; I was just saying that he’s not as good as Ovechkin (IMO).

His only score tonight just reinforces my opinion.

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