# NHL Playoffs

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 12, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862 "2009-04-12T17:50:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/401 "2009-05-31T01:51:57Z")

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Another classic goal.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/402 "2009-05-31T02:15:57Z")

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Wheeeeeee!!! That was a great goal!

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/403 "2009-05-31T02:16:52Z")

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3-1 wings. I knew this was coming, Canes put up 4 goals on 24 shots in Game 2 of the ECF.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/404 "2009-05-31T02:17:29Z")

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> [@Jman](#):
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> Excuse me? You are honestly saying that a steal from Malkin, a hard shot, with a rebound that is skillfully gathered and shot into the net is a cheap goal, while the Wings goal was a complete and total fluke? Rose colored glasses a bit? Dear lord…

Actually neither one of the first two goals was particularly elegant. Fleury puts another puck in off his bottom and Ozzie bobbles and loses sight of a rebound. I’d comment on the second Detroit goal, but I was out taking my dogs to answer nature’s call. Dogs just don’t understand things like the Stanley Cup.

For a team that was supposed to be as improved on defense as Pittsburgh was, they sure have been sitting back and giving Detroit a lot of room in the offensive zone. On the other end, Detroit has done a good job of keeping the Pens offense from setting up their little alley-oop plays that they’ve been running with in the playoffs.

Offensively, Detroit has been making it easy on the Pens by simply skating in and shooting the puck. Pittsburgh has been giving them room and they need to use it better. Pittsburgh needs to take a break from the above mention alley-oops and look to force Ozzie to give up more rebounds.

And the refs. First period they were “letting players play.” The second, they found their whistles (turns out they were in their pockets the whole time). My problem is that the penalties were pretty clear cut in _both_ periods.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/405 "2009-05-31T02:47:29Z")

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Wings win!

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/406 "2009-05-31T02:50:03Z")

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It seemed like crappy ice. The puck would not stay down. At least the refs let them play. They were skating up and down the ice ,with few game stoppages. It was a good game. The Wings stuffed them pretty well.

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/407 "2009-05-31T02:52:53Z")

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Two completely lucky goals by the Wings end up being the difference. Overall, a pretty even game. While it was called evenly, I HATED the officiating in this game. Not calling anything leads to a chippy game where everyone grabs and pulls and prevents offense, and it really made it so that there was never any open ice. There’s letting them play, and then there’s letting them maul each other. Once there was a two goal lead, there was no chance to come back, as Detroit could just claw and grab and trip and such and prevent any scoring. Like I said, it was even…the Penguins committed just as many non-called penalties, but that style pretty much killed any chance of a comeback.

I have hope for the Pens, though, as they played very well, especially in the third period (though their second power play was absolutely DREADFUL).

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/408 "2009-05-31T02:57:06Z")

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I think Pittsburgh outplayed them for a good part of the game. It was way too chippy though, with Detroit getting lucky way too many times.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/409 "2009-05-31T03:00:02Z")

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The ice seemed crappy. The puck didn’t stay down. But it was end to end, good for TV kind of game.All good Americans and Canadians are pleased with the results.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/410 "2009-05-31T03:15:17Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> The ice seemed crappy. The puck didn’t stay down. But it was end to end, good for TV kind of game.All good Americans and Canadians are pleased with the results.

Nonsense. There was back and forth, but the tempo was lacking and there wasn’t much in the way of sustained offensive pressure. That’s likely due to the typical game one feeling each other out period and both teams overemphasis on hits. I’d say to expect more excitement tommorow, but that’s unlikely due to the back to back. Thanks NBC. Least we won’t miss “I’m a Celebrity. Get me out of here.”:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/411 "2009-05-31T03:20:40Z")

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> [@Jman](#):
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> Two completely lucky goals by the Wings end up being the difference. Overall, a pretty even game. While it was called evenly, I HATED the officiating in this game. Not calling anything leads to a chippy game where everyone grabs and pulls and prevents offense, and it really made it so that there was never any open ice. There’s letting them play, and then there’s letting them maul each other. Once there was a two goal lead, there was no chance to come back, as Detroit could just claw and grab and trip and such and prevent any scoring. Like I said, it was even…the Penguins committed just as many non-called penalties, but that style pretty much killed any chance of a comeback.

I’ll second this. “Letting the players play” means you let them make good hits and you let stuff go that doesn’t impede the players movement. When you let them hook and clutch and grab and hold and sit on each other, that’s not “letting the players play.” It’s rubbish.

I’ve said it in each of the last two series. The officiating in this years playoffs is pure crap.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/412 "2009-05-31T03:20:45Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> I’d say to expect more excitement tommorow, but that’s unlikely due to the back to back.

Yeah, what’s up with that?

I’m waiting for my fellow Detroit residents to suggest it is a conspiracy to keep Detroit’s healthiest player out.

😉

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/413 "2009-05-31T03:25:25Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Yeah, what’s up with that?
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> I’m waiting for my fellow Detroit residents to suggest it is a conspiracy to keep Detroit’s healthiest player out.
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> 😉

If only the league were that competent. NBC doesn’t want any potential overtime to interfere with Conan’s big debut. That and while games like that favor the younger, healthier teams, they really don’t favor anyone. Goalies are tired. Legs are tired. Hits start taking a toll. Players get lazy and take interference penalties. In all honesty I expect tommorow to be three periods of ugly, stupid, tired hockey. Thanks again NBC, and thanks Gary Bettman.

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**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/414 "2009-05-31T04:02:45Z")

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It’ll be interesting to see if anything happens to Crosby after his post-game slash on Maltby. I’m sure if the roles had been reversed, Maltby would be suspended already…

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/415 "2009-05-31T12:20:42Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> 🙂 Fleury is our best player so far.

And Fleury’s ass is Detroit’s MVP so far.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/416 "2009-05-31T12:35:44Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> If only the league were that competent. NBC doesn’t want any potential overtime to interfere with Conan’s big debut. That and while games like that favor the younger, healthier teams, they really don’t favor anyone. Goalies are tired. Legs are tired. Hits start taking a toll. Players get lazy and take interference penalties. In all honesty I expect tommorow to be three periods of ugly, stupid, tired hockey. Thanks again NBC, and thanks Gary Bettman.

The two teams had lots of rest lately. If they can’t take a back-to-back they don’t deserve to be inthe Finals. It’s fucking June already, let’s wrap this puppy up.

I think they’ll play fine today. It’s the finals; this is the time for balls-to-the-wall effort, not whining because you’re tired from yesterday. Get some sleep, take some Advil, you’re good to go.

NOTE: Gary Bettman is a lying jackass, though. I loved how he announced everything is hunky dory in the NHL. Nope, no financial problems at all.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/417 "2009-05-31T12:36:17Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Yeah, what’s up with that?
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> I’m waiting for my fellow Detroit residents to suggest it is a conspiracy to keep Detroit’s healthiest player out.
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> 😉

It is a conspiracy to hurt the Wings.

Actually it is TV making decisions. They are avoiding a NBA match up. I am not sure how much fan overlap there is. With the Cavs getting eliminated , the NBA match up is missing the Kobe v Labron war. Also they do not play until Thursday ,so hockey has the stage.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/418 "2009-05-31T18:02:48Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The two teams had lots of rest lately.

Pittsburgh wrapped on Tuesday and Detroit on Wednesday. That’s three and two days of rest. Not what I’d call a lot.

> [@](#):
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> If they can’t take a back-to-back they don’t deserve to be inthe Finals.

They deserve to be in the finals because they’ve beaten three other teams. I think a day off between games isn’t asking too much.

> [@](#):
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> It’s fucking June already, let’s wrap this puppy up.

So tell the league to start earlier or drop some games off the schedule. They shouldn’t be cramming the finals in just because it’s June.

> [@](#):
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> I think they’ll play fine today. It’s the finals; this is the time for balls-to-the-wall effort, not whining because you’re tired from yesterday. Get some sleep, take some Advil, you’re good to go.

This is the NHL Stanley Cup finals, not a hangover. This is the biggest stage the NHL has and they are lowering the quality of the product by shoving the first four games into six days. That’s just plain stupid.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/419 "2009-05-31T18:25:12Z")

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\*\*\* MOD NOTE \*\*\*

I’ve merged the new “Stanley Cup” thread into this one at the request of its OP, **MadTheSwine**.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nhl-playoffs/492862/420 "2009-06-01T00:30:51Z")

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DAMMMMN…Wings are all over the Pings so far…cant belive we didnt score on one of those chances.

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