Good luck with that one.
:rolleyes:
What on earth happened to Marleau? I remember that it wasn’t too long ago that RickJay was calling him one the best playoff performers of his generation, and now?
You know, I think that if you swapped his and Alfredsson’s careers both would have won a Cup by now.
At the beginning of the year I told people in total seriousness that I didn’t see 70 points in this team, and maybe not 60.
I was calling for bottom five in both goals for and against. Dead last in the NHL if Anderson blew up.
(Of course, I wasn’t far wrong on goals against, but they’ll figure out that pesky “coverage” thing sooner or later).
I was surprised that Weber got only a fine. I was expecting up to 3 games for that. MAYBE Shanahan saw somthing that Zetterberg did in the corner just prior to Weber smashing his head into the glass, but all I saw was an arm around the neck area of Weber, and it looked like Zetterberg turned his body to try to avoid a violent collision with Weber. So I think it was a total overreaction to that hit, and Weber really should have had a 1-3 game vacation.
And I just found out that Torres is thinking of appealing the 25 game suspension, but even if he does, I can’t see him getting it reduced to less than 15, with him being a repeat offender. He obviously hadn’t learned from his other suspensions, so to take it down to anything less than 10-15 games would teach him nothing. Just my opinion, of course. 
Yes, concussions are hilarious.
Hey, if your boy can’t handle a love tap coming over the middle he shouldn’t be playing the game.
Is anyone shocked that San Jose is gone already?
By already do you mean in five games or in the first round? I certainly expected them to win more than one game, but they were the seventh seed, after all.
I know that LA’s the eight seed and all but Neimi is no Quick.
Really? Is it news that Marleau is the next Houdini? He’s long been practicing for his next gig as an escape artist, disappearing right when it is most opportune. In the playoffs he’s like the opponent’s ninja on our team.
I said he was an excellent playoff player before Joe Thornton came around, which was a long time ago.
His performance in the playoffs started getting worse precisely upon the arrival of Captain November.
This is a dispicable attitude. Torts may have overstated in his comparison to Torres’, but Neil’s hit was undeniably nasty, avoidable and just as dangerous and only a delusional fan would side with Neil on this. Boyle is concussed and out - that’s acceptable to you? And don’t answer by pointing to some other player, some other situation… THIS situation is unacceptable. Neil is as dirty as they come and he deserves to start racking up supplementary discipline mileage.
I say 3 games.
Shanny says zero. Wasn’t late, wasn’t a charge, head was not the principle point of contact. Legal hit.
It’s unfortunate that Boyle was injured, but you’ll never completely eliminate injuries in any sport, let alone a full contact sport.
And by the way, if we want to talk “delusional”, at the hockey board I post to it was pretty well unanimous among neutral fans that the hit was completely clean.
Yes, because Shanny is apparently the authority on this? :rolleyes:
Neil is looking straight at Boyle, he can see that Boyle’s head is down as a combination of being driven a little by [other Sens player whose name I haven’t noticed] and the fact that he just shot the puck. As such, it’s pretty damn clear to anyone with half a brain that laying a full-out hit right then would result in hitting the head and likely injuries. At the last second, instead of just delivering a shoulder that would unbalance Boyle, Neil turns to go with a full body hit. This “principal point of contact” concept is bullshit in situations where the head and body are hit simultaneously - the force to the head is pretty much the same.
Neil could have - and should have - chosen to not make contact. Kind of like Pacioretty on Letang - that hit was also avoidable and the suspension was deserved (Malone on Campoli too, but Shanny is a moron).
Neil could have - and should have - attempted to reduce the force of the hit when he saw the head was down, rather than increase it.
Neil could have - and should have - been punished for this hit. It was reckless and irresponsible and Sens fans gloating over it is disgusting.
A link to a good video would help; I can only find one that shows only one angle in real time. But Neil’s hit is, at least from the main view, quite obviously NOT the same as Torres’s hit. Neil does not leave his feet to hit Boyle (so it isn’t charging) and does not commit interference (the puck had departed Boyle’s stick only a quarter of a second before contact, which is less than the league’s standard for late hit.)
What I can’t tell is whether or not Neil’s primary point of contact is the head, which is a suspendable offense. It appears quite possible, but the two videos I have are irritatingly unclear.
Neil is a dirty player who has a face you just wanna punch, but you can’t just pretend his hit was the same as Torres’s because he’s an ass. It wasn’t. Whether or not it was a head shot, though, and deserving of SOME suspension, should be examined very carefully indeed. In real time it looked like his primary point of contact was the chest, but the reverse angle makes it appear it might have been shoulder to head. I’m sure the league has better video than I can find, and if they see him tareting the head, to the press box he must go. (ETA: Apparently they looked at it and didn’t see head contact. Still, I wish there was a better angle for ME to look at.)
But for 25 games? No; it’s not equivalent. He doesn’t charge, it’s not a late hit, and he doesn’t have supplementary discipline for five head shots before. More than one or two games, absolutely.
Just to be clear, I don’t think it’s comparable to Torres’ hit on Hossa (though I think both players are just as nasty!).
I think Shanahan should be erring on the side of safety, not on the side of 'well it’s not 100% provably evil…just 98%…so no suspension." I could respect that.
OK…I get the tradition and whatnot with that old video of God Bless America at Flyers games, but the animated stars and stripes and the eagle make it kind of look like it’s being produced for the Colbert Report.
Fleury was a disaster in the first period. He is completely out of control. Doesn’t help that the d is on it’s heels, though, They give them half of their own zone every time down the ice. Insane.