# "Nice Guys" vs. Decent, Albeit Clueless, Men

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-guys-vs-decent-albeit-clueless-men/749224>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 17, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-guys-vs-decent-albeit-clueless-men/749224 "2016-03-17T00:52:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-guys-vs-decent-albeit-clueless-men/749224/377 "2016-03-30T20:46:17Z")

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> [@Pantastic](#):
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> I dispute completely the premise that being concerned for oneself and one’s own needs is in any way jerkish

OK, but let’s redirect, again: This behavior example, for instance, doesn’t match that definition:

> [@Why doesn't geekdom get the girls?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-doesnt-geekdom-get-the-girls/737029/90):
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> I have personally known: -
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> - a girl besotted with a guy whose idea of banter was to tell everyone within earshot that she was on her period while she was begging him to shut up about it

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