# Nice Moderating, Jonathan **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 10, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536 "2015-09-10T17:56:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/1 "2015-09-10T17:56:24Z")
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31) Shodan walks into a thread, shits all over it and derails it. Mod tells ME not to accuse him of threadshitting? Dude, that’s exactly what he’s doing, and you apparently approve of it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/2 "2015-09-10T18:25:20Z")
Yeah, that was a bit of weirdness. **JC** must have a 12 lb. trigger pull on the Mod Gun. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/3 "2015-09-10T18:39:11Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31) > > Shodan walks into a thread, shits all over it and derails it. Mod tells ME not to accuse him of threadshitting? Dude, that’s exactly what he’s doing, and you apparently approve of it. How did he derail it? He asked if there was any research to answer the Ops question. The thread is full of new age movement nonsense. Like these: > [@](#): > > Until that changes, people are going to rely on folklore and anecdotes because this is consistently more reliable than any information you get out of the DEA. > [@](#): > > When it comes to weed you need to either go to shamans or aficionados for information. Just because something hasn’t been checked off by mainstream science yet doesn’t mean it’s not real or effective. Science has its’ own agenda, unfortunately, and seems reluctant to look into the effects of so called “narcotics”. > Reply With Quote This board usually jumps all over unscientific nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/4 "2015-09-10T18:42:27Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31) > > Shodan walks into a thread, shits all over it and derails it. Mod tells ME not to accuse him of threadshitting? Dude, that’s exactly what he’s doing, and you apparently approve of it. You were way out of line in that post. And I really fail to see how advocating using the scientific method to test medical effectiveness qualifies as “threadshitting” or derailing the thread. I don’t see any factual contributions by you to that thread. Your responses were entirely anecdotal. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/5 "2015-09-10T18:43:03Z")
**Jonathan** made the right call. If you thought **Shodan** was threadshitting you should have reported him, not junior modded him. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/6 "2015-09-10T18:44:49Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31) > > Shodan walks into a thread, shits all over it and derails it. Mod tells ME not to accuse him of threadshitting? Dude, that’s exactly what he’s doing, and you apparently approve of it. I don’t get your point. Threadshitting, if it happens, is different than accusing someone of threadshitting. Threadshitting is a judgment call, by a mod, whereas accusing someone of threadshitting is pretty much a black and white thing. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/7 "2015-09-10T18:54:55Z")
For that matter, there were a lot of other folks in that thread saying basically the same thing as **Shodan** was. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/8 "2015-09-10T18:57:36Z")
Which is pretty much the space I am in. Shodan’s participation in the thread may be a bit blunt instrument, But he’s well within the line to ask for any scientific basis for any claims that are made regarding efficacy of different strains of weed. The OP asked if there are any differences in the varying strains of weed and Shodan replied that there’s little evidence and that claims without such are questionable. There’s nothing at all wrong with that on the SDMB. Hell, it’s almost orthodoxy. You, on the other hand, took a shot at another poster. I chose to mildly redirect you rather than to escalate it. Nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/9 "2015-09-11T01:19:53Z")
Read the thread. It’s a good perfectly straightforward topic, and seems like a straightforward discussion. Nobody seems out of line whatsoever, certainly not **Shodan** – in fact I was looking for something I could label Shodan-esque, thinking that there was some tell tale, but found nothing that a million other posters wouldn’t have done or expressed. I don’t even see the reason behind JC’s characterization upthread of calling it a blunt instrument. The post consisting entirely of “cite?” is narrow as there is. Also, OP, sarcasm is counterproductive in subject heds. I mean, I was looking forward to a shout out to **JC** , so I could rubberneck the happy parade. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/10 "2015-09-11T01:33:43Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > I don’t even see the reason behind JC’s characterization upthread of calling it a blunt instrument. _blunt_ is a euphemism for a joint. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/11 "2015-09-11T01:35:55Z")
You’re spending too much time in the hoosegow, doc. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/12 "2015-09-11T01:36:55Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > You’re spending too much time in the hoosegow, doc. I gave you too much credit for subtlety? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/13 "2015-09-11T01:43:19Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > Also, OP, sarcasm is counterproductive in subject heds. I mean, I was looking forward to a shout out to **JC** , so I could rubberneck the happy parade. Meh. I only clicked the link to see whether it was sarcastic or not. I gave it an 85% chance (of being sarcastic.) Something about calling him Jonathan just sounded like it would have to be sarcastic. Also, BTW, I like the tone you took here, **JC**. I’d like to see more of that. Both in this thread and the other one. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/14 "2015-09-11T04:39:31Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31) > > Shodan walks into a thread, shits all over it and derails it. Mod tells ME not to accuse him of threadshitting? Dude, that’s exactly what he’s doing, and you apparently approve of it. I don’t particularly care for Shodan but frankly I largely agreed with his post and saw no reason to classify it as “threadshitting”. He made good points that the science is lacking in this area because of the fact that pot has been illegal for so long. Also, Jonathan didn’t give you a warning but a mere mod note. Had he given you a warning I could understand being upset, but this strikes me as a bit of an overreaction. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/15 "2015-09-11T06:37:03Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18674712&postcount=31) > > Shodan walks into a thread, shits all over it and derails it. Mod tells ME not to accuse him of threadshitting? Dude, that’s exactly what he’s doing, and you apparently approve of it. Even if you were 100% correct (and you weren’t) where do you get off thinking that it’s OK to accuse someone of threadshitting? If you think that’s happening, you report the post. What part of that is difficult to understand? ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/16 "2015-09-11T07:34:46Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Shodan walks into a thread, shits all over it and derails it. This sentence keep making me think there’s a joke coming up. “Shodan, the Pope, and Obama walk into a thread. Shodan shits all over it and derails it, and …” ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/17 "2015-09-11T08:18:22Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@CairoCarol](#): > > This sentence keep making me think there’s a joke coming up. > > “Shodan, the Pope, and Obama walk into a thread. Shodan shits all over it and derails it, and …” Discussions in ATMB are expected to be civil. If you want to discuss Shodan’s participation in that thread and how it relates to the moderation that was done, that’s fine. However, if you just want to toss a personal insult at Shodan (or anyone else for that matter), that’s not acceptable here. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/18 "2015-09-11T09:33:57Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > Discussions in ATMB are expected to be civil. If you want to discuss Shodan’s participation in that thread and how it relates to the moderation that was done, that’s fine. However, if you just want to toss a personal insult at Shodan (or anyone else for that matter), that’s not acceptable here. I had NO INTENTION of insulting anyone. Unless every character (popes, rabbis, presidents, etc.) who “walks into a bar” or “is in a crashing airplane with only two parachutes” is automatically considered a bad guy, I’m not sure how you interpreted this as an insult to Shodan. Well, there goes my mod note virginity. And after all these years. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/19 "2015-09-11T10:20:39Z")
You _don’t_ think “ **Shodan** shits all over it and derails it” is insulting? I know you put it in the context of a hypothetical joke but isn’t that attempting to excuse an insult by (implicitly) claiming that you were only joking? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/20 "2015-09-11T10:36:04Z")
But Shodan wasn’t the topic of the joke, Chimera’s phrasing was. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536.md?page=2)