# Nice Moderating, Jonathan **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 10, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536 "2015-09-10T17:56:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/21 "2015-09-11T10:40:43Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > Discussions in ATMB are expected to be civil. If you want to discuss Shodan’s participation in that thread and how it relates to the moderation that was done, that’s fine. However, if you just want to toss a personal insult at Shodan (or anyone else for that matter), that’s not acceptable here. The “shits all over it and derails it” is a quote from the OP, not CairoCarol’s own words. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/22 "2015-09-11T10:48:30Z")
I think it has been sufficiently established in _this_ thread that **Shodan** neither shit all over _that_ thread nor derailed it. For someone to make up a hypothetical that re-asserts those very things is insulting. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/23 "2015-09-11T10:50:58Z")
Nobody is doing that. Or anything vaguely like that. I’m baffled that anyone could turn ‘you know, the way Chimera phrased his accusation of threadshitting sounds like the start of a joke’ into ‘Shodan threadshit’. ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/24 "2015-09-11T10:55:31Z")
I note that you have an opinion. I do as well. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/25 "2015-09-11T10:58:07Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > If you want to discuss Shodan’s participation in that thread and how it relates to the moderation that was done, that’s fine. However, if you just want to toss a personal insult at Shodan (or anyone else for that matter), that’s not acceptable here. An observation. If a group of people were at a party discussing the topic of the original OP, and **Shodan** joined in adding his thoughts as he did in the thread, the group would break up and rejoin later, avoiding **Shodan**. No snark intended, and I understand the mod note. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/26 "2015-09-11T11:14:46Z")
> [@jimbuff314](#): > > I think it has been sufficiently established in _this_ thread that **Shodan** neither shit all over _that_ thread nor derailed it. For someone to make up a hypothetical that re-asserts those very things is insulting. A joke about a joke is not a hypothetical. That post was commenting on the OP’s phrasing, not endorsing it. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/27 "2015-09-11T11:55:20Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > If a group of people were at a party discussing the topic of the original OP, and **Shodan** joined in adding his thoughts as he did in the thread, the group would break up and rejoin later, avoiding **Shodan**. A party would be analogous to MPSIMS or IMHO, but this was in Great Debates where evidence and reasoned logic should be front and center. To continue the analogy that would be more like a business meeting or a lecture hall. Also, there may be some folks at the party who would be interested in finding out whether there’s any evidence to support the conjecture. Not all parties are the same. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/28 "2015-09-11T12:10:34Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > I had NO INTENTION of insulting anyone. Unless every character (popes, rabbis, presidents, etc.) who “walks into a bar” or “is in a crashing airplane with only two parachutes” is automatically considered a bad guy, I’m not sure how you interpreted this as an insult to Shodan. > > Well, there goes my mod note virginity. And after all these years. You were the victim of a random and unprovoked assault, so it doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/29 "2015-09-11T12:14:43Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > A party would be analogous to MPSIMS or IMHO, but this was in Great Debates where evidence and reasoned logic should be front and center. To continue the analogy that would be more like a business meeting or a lecture hall. > > Also, there may be some folks at the party who would be interested in finding out whether there’s any evidence to support the conjecture. Not all parties are the same. You are correct, and welcome at my party. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/30 "2015-09-11T12:55:24Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > An observation. > > If a group of people were at a party discussing the topic of the original OP, and **Shodan** joined in adding his thoughts as he did in the thread, the group would break up and rejoin later, avoiding **Shodan**. It was a thread in Great Debates, not party chit chat, so I don’t see the relevence. Chimera’s OP is full of wrong, so his sarcasm makes him look bad. Cairo Carol was just making a random observation: Parts of Chimera’s OP sounded like a stereotypical joke setup. If there was any hostility toward Shodan -or anyone else- I didn’t detect it. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/31 "2015-09-11T13:00:47Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > It was a thread in Great Debates, not party chit chat, so I don’t see the relevence. Yes, I get it, sorry again. And hats off to **SmartAleq** for answering the original OP with cool cites. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/32 "2015-09-11T13:50:16Z")
Wouldn’t telling somebody they are Jr Modding actually be a type of Jr Modding? I mean, if a non-Mod was doing it? Just report a post if you think it’s a rule violation. of course it this is true, my post is now Jr Modding, so I have to report myself. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/33 "2015-09-11T14:57:04Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Wouldn’t telling somebody they are Jr Modding actually be a type of Jr Modding? I mean, if a non-Mod was doing it? Just report a post if you think it’s a rule violation. of course it this is true, my post is now Jr Modding, so I have to report myself. Did you seriously just tell us you were going to report someone? Totally unnecessary bit of junior modding there, junior; consider yourself reporte– Aw, CRAP! ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/34 "2015-09-11T15:16:22Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Wouldn’t telling somebody they are Jr Modding actually be a type of Jr Modding? I mean, if a non-Mod was doing it? Just report a post if you think it’s a rule violation. of course it this is true, my post is now Jr Modding, so I have to report myself. Reported… 😛 As to the OP, I have to agree…it was a nice bit of modding there. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/35 "2015-09-11T15:18:19Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > Discussions in ATMB are expected to be civil. If you want to discuss Shodan’s participation in that thread and how it relates to the moderation that was done, that’s fine. However, if you just want to toss a personal insult at Shodan (or anyone else for that matter), that’s not acceptable here. That was no insult - intended or otherwise - it may not be appropriate for this forum either way, but you’ve taken it way out of context and intent. Maybe someone should clear thier throat or something. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/36 "2015-09-11T16:08:12Z")
Yeah, not an insult. Just a comment about how someone’s phrasing sounded like the setup to a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/37 "2015-09-11T17:19:17Z")
This is why we can’t have good jokes here. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/38 "2015-09-11T17:41:36Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > … > > Well, there goes my mod note virginity. And after all these years. Well crap. I guess we’ll never hear the end of the joke now. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/39 "2015-09-11T17:57:29Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Well crap. I guess we’ll never hear the end of the joke now. At the very end, **Shodan** replies “The _ **Democrats** _!” ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-moderating-jonathan/730536/40 "2015-09-11T18:01:37Z")
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