# Nice try, Fotheringay-Phipps.

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**Created:** [May 20, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-try-fotheringay-phipps/497086 "2009-05-20T16:20:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nice-try-fotheringay-phipps/497086/122 "2018-02-08T19:56:19Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> And as for you, wolfpup, the fact is that beyond the general weakness of your arguments such as they were, it became apparent after a while that you were discussing a different issue than I was.

Really? The “issue” I was discussing was the wrongness of your claims, specifically, your pathetic attempts to find excuses for the costs of US healthcare while assiduously ignoring the elephant in the room. Which elephant, when pointed out to you, caused you to cease further discussion. If my arguments were “weak”, you were spectacularly unsuccessful in refuting them, choosing instead to bloviated demonstrable – and demonstrated – nonsense, and thereafter indulge in sullen silence.

> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> [Minor aside: I’ve not said anywhere that I work for a for-profit insurance company - or any insurance company at all - as you asserted. That’s just something you imagined you saw. You, being you.]

This is what I saw:

> [@Amazon, JP Morgan, Berkshire Hathaway & healthcare reform](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazon-jp-morgan-berkshire-hathaway-healthcare-reform/807829/5):
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> I’m curious as to what they’re up to (I have a professional interest, as a health care actuary) …

If I made incorrect assumptions from this, feel free to update us with the facts. I can confidently make statements about health care economics, not so much about second-guessing who your employer is. My assumptions from this statement came from the fact that the vast majority of health care actuaries are involved in the risk-rated health insurance business. They have a minimal role in community-rated public health systems. In fact, in a conference held some years ago about the potential impacts on actuaries of a hypothetical US public health insurance system, one of the industry representatives stated “our whole foundation [of the actuarial business] could get blasted away”. Kind of a vested interest there, eh, what, what, **Fotheringay-Phipps**? 😉

But please, tell us what you really do.

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