# Nickelodean Sucks! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 1, 2001, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230 "2001-12-01T00:44:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2001, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/21 "2001-12-01T23:10:25Z")
I’m not sure if **Doug** is still on Nick. I remember it was on Noggin, though. Who here remembers **You Can’t Do That On Television**? I remember watching snippets of it before we got cable, and was disapointed to see they took it off the air when we did get cable. I do remember what a neat show that was. I also loved **Hey Dude**. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@The\_Raven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Raven)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2001, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/22 "2001-12-01T23:50:33Z")
Last I saw Doug, it was on several different channels (I’ve seen it on Nick, the Disney channel, and maybe even Kids WB )…personally, if it wasn’t for Spongebob Squarepants and Invader Zim, I’d add the channel to the blocked ones on my TV (ahh, technology) The Raven (who is washing my new Zim shirt even as I type bwahahaha) ---
**Author:** ![mblackwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@mblackwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mblackwell)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2001, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/23 "2001-12-01T23:56:34Z")
Nick canceled Doug, then Disney/ABC made new episodes with a different theme song, some different voices, and a different haircut for Patty. They were ok, but not as good as the originals. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/24 "2001-12-02T00:34:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sam Lowry \* > \*\*After Nickelodean stopped showing **The Adventures of Pete and Pete** and they don’t even show the reruns anymore, I knew they were going downhill. > \*\* It’s a darn shame. **The Adventures of Pete and Pete** was one of the finest television shows ever produced. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bad\_Astronomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@The\_Bad\_Astronomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bad_Astronomer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/25 "2001-12-02T01:45:41Z")
SpongeBob rules. It rivals the Simpsons for making me laugh. Thornberries is great, and has good morals. Fairly Oddparents makes me laugh, too, especially Cosmo. Rugrats is still a great show. I am a parent. I watch these shows with my daughter, and in general I am careful what I let her see. Nickelodeon has some fantastic programming. … and I stood on the set of “The Amanda Show”, too. It was not filming just then, but it was still kinda cool. Especially the signs in the bathroom that say, “Amanda says wash your hands after going to the bathroom.” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Riffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@D\_Riffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Riffer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/26 "2001-12-02T01:58:54Z")
The only show I watch on Nick are the “All in the Family” re-runs, and they cut them all to hell just to squeeze in a few more commercials. Bastards. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/27 "2001-12-02T02:05:16Z")
Has anyone else but me seen As Told By Ginger? It’s such a shame-it’s one of the best shows I’ve seen in a long time. ---
**Author:** ![KJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b2d939/32.png) [@KJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KJ)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/28 "2001-12-02T08:02:14Z")
I don’t know if it’s any different elsewhere, but at least locally, Doug is played on the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. And here, they are one channel apart. And on Saturdays, there is actually a time when it’s on **both channels at the same time.** Yuck. I only sort of liked that show when it was new, now it’s just annoying (That’s MHO, though.) And, hey! My name is on the [FUS Comic](http://www.atlantiscity.net/fus/season3/) page of that Sonic SatAM site (though it is sort of spelled wrong.) That was a great show. Probably my favorite American TV show (besides the more adult stuff like The Simpsons, of course.) And I’ll be sure to get the DVDs when they come out (Yay!!) And, I just realized something else. [Dan Drazen](http://www.andrews.edu/~drazen)’s name is also on that page, and on [this Straight Dope article](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_118.html). It’s a small, small world. ---
**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/29 "2001-12-02T08:04:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bean\_shadow \* > \*\*I’m not sure if **Doug** is still on Nick. I remember it was on Noggin, though. > > Who here remembers **You Can’t Do That On Television**? I remember watching snippets of it before we got cable, and was disapointed to see they took it off the air when we did get cable. I do remember what a neat show that was. > > I also loved **Hey Dude**. \*\* Umm YCDTOT is exactly what this is a rant against… Remember that it was all booger and puke jokes with people getting covered in nasty ass slime. WHat I wonder, is how the hell do you justify your existance (TM–The Onion) if you’re 40 and your job is to get green slime poured on you 5 days a week? ---
**Author:** ![Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/30 "2001-12-02T08:11:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Barking Spider \* > \*\*My problem with Nickelodian is that they are owned and run by the same Media Lords who run MTV. As such, Nickelodian has the same agenda as MTV. > \*\* To make money by airing popular shows and thereby attracting advertisers? **Dumbass.** ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/31 "2001-12-02T08:57:41Z")
ZIM!! I actually like Nickelodeon for the most part. Their cartoons are often somewhat less puerile than the ones I’ve seen on network TV. Rugrats has gone sadly downhill and I miss Pete and Pete (how cool is a kids’ show that has Iggy Pop as a returning character and Kate Pierson, Syd Straw, Michael Stipe, all of Luscious Jackson and so many others on as guests?), but many of the others mentioned are not bad, and Invader Zim covers many sins. They have shirts now? ---
**Author:** ![saepiroth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@saepiroth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saepiroth)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/32 "2001-12-02T16:47:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KJ \* > \*\*And, hey! My name is on the [FUS Comic](http://www.atlantiscity.net/fus/season3/) page of that Sonic SatAM site (though it is sort of spelled wrong.) That was a great show. Probably my favorite American TV show (besides the more adult stuff like The Simpsons, of course.) And I’ll be sure to get the DVDs when they come out (Yay!!) > \*\* that’s just plain “Kool”, “Kinka”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/33 "2001-12-02T19:54:54Z")
YES!! I finally know what time Invador Zim is on! I’ve been trying to find it on Nick for a long time now, after seeing one episode. Thank you, Dopers! As for other good shows, I watched the Fairly Odd Parents yesterday and believe that I’m now addicted to it. It’s not as funny as Rocko and Pete & Pete, but those were two of the greatest shows ever made, so I’m not expecting them to be matched. ---
**Author:** ![RaCha\_ar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@RaCha\_ar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaCha_ar)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/34 "2001-12-02T20:27:33Z")
ZIM!!! ::goes into a spasm of drool and joy:: I know someone who _is_ Gir. Hee, Gir! **Raven** , where did you get your T-shirt? I need one for me and one for the Zim-worshipping boyfriend. I dunno, IMHO Nick is better now than it has been in years. The shows seem to be a lot more intelligent than the days of Ren & Stimpy and YCDTOT (can you believe Alanis Morrissette came from that show?) But this is speaking as a 21-year-old and not a parent nor, for that matter, anyone with any interest at all in what kids watch, so maybe my opinion isn’t worth much. All I can tell you is that I watch it as much now as I did when I was a kid, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2001, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/35 "2001-12-02T23:10:29Z")
Nick dipped. IMHO though the best and most exciting show Nick ever put on was “The Mysterious Cities of Gold” about three young children Tau, Zia and … I forget the Spanish boys name. But they had a flying golden condor. It was a French anime show. Really good and now nobody will show it because it’s TOO adult. I know where it is on rm and watched it all, ooh. Then there were the original “Rugrats” where they had great and fun adventures. And Pete and Pete were absolutely hilarious. Follwed by a period of not so good. But now they got Invader ZIM!, SpongeBob SquarePants and The Fairly Oddparents. All of which are hilarious and insanely quoteable. But CN still beats them with Samurai Jack and Home Movies. But not by much. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/36 "2001-12-03T01:02:05Z")
**SpongeBob SquarePants**! “I smell the smelly smell of something that smells smelly!” -Mr. Krabs “Once upon a time there was an ugly barnacle. He was so ugly everyone died. The end.” -Patrick “_ **WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!?** _” -Patrick Ren and Stimpy was a masterwork as well. “Don’t piss on the electric fence” has the same effect on me as Unca Cece’s “Shaking hands with Jesus.” I’ve always been above 99.9% of all American cartoons (the joys of having a high IQ, I guess) but those really crack me up. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/37 "2001-12-03T05:33:38Z")
Nick has sucked ever since they fired John Kricfalusi from **Ren and Stimpy**. ---
**Author:** ![arachnidlove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@arachnidlove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arachnidlove)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/38 "2001-12-03T06:30:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by saffostarr \* > \*\*ZIM!!! ::goes into a spasm of drool and joy:: I know someone who _is_ Gir. Hee, Gir! **Raven** , where did you get your T-shirt? I need one for me and one for the Zim-worshipping boyfriend. 😛 I’ve had my Invader Zim shirt for a week now! A WEEK!!! Okay, I got mine at Hot Topic. I hate going into that store because its always so crowded and getting soo trendy. But yeah…I walked in to browse quickly saw invader zim, freaked out for about 5 minutes. Picked up a shirt, went to register bought shirt and a Patrick sticker from Spongebob for my boyfriends guitar. I am now a proud owner of a Zim shirt. It has Zim with Gir dancing around him. The shirt says “I’m dancing like a monkey!” I love Spongebob though I don’t watch it as much. I love Zim and the Fairly Oddparents too. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/39 "2001-12-03T14:28:26Z")
Patrick the starfish: “Look at it! Its ugly!!” ---
**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230/40 "2001-12-03T14:35:06Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by martinez \* Kids (I hate the word kid. It sounds so vulgar and demeaning) QUOTE] I used to work for Nickelodeon and we were under strict orders to use the terms “kid” and “grown-up” as opposed to “child” and “adult.” I prefer the term “kid”, “child” sounds too precious. Nick’s philiosophy is to empower kids, to give them a place to have their voices and opinions heard, and to shake as much allowance out of the little buggers as they can. It’s no coincidence that Nick, Mtv, and VH-1 are all owned by Viacom. The idea is that they’re getting kids’ brand loyalty at a young age with Nick, then they feed them the whole boy band/Britney Spears stuff to get them ready for Mtv. That keeps them in Viacom’s pocket through their teens and early 20’s. When they outgrow the tits-and-ass laden programming there, they move on to the more mature VH-1. That’s why you see so much more programming on Mtv and VH-1 than you used to, in an odd way, they’re mimicking Nickelodeon. It’s definitely an indoctrination of sorts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodean-sucks/96230.md?page=3)