# Nickelodeon and explicit adult sadomaschism.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772 "2007-06-12T22:02:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/1 "2007-06-12T22:02:34Z")

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Perhaps you have seen the “public service” ad featuring “Mistress Mandy”. It is an advertisement supposedly targeted at parents and it features said Mistress in full on B&D regalia, cracking her whip. The parents on the commercial make a speech about how while, they really like her show, she has to be blocked with the parental control because they are afraid of what the kids might see. The wife in the spot pretty much lets on that she herself is really into female domination fantasies.

SO WHY THE FUCK IS THIS SPOT ON ON NICKELODEON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON WHERE MY GODCHILD AND HER PLAYMATE CAN SEE IT? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: EVEN IF I BLOCKED CINEMAX, WHAT THE FUCK GOOD DOES IT DO IF THEY CAN NOW FIND ALL ABOUT MISTRESS MANDY AND THE SICK THINGS MOMMY AND DADDY MIGHT BE SECRETLY INTO, WHILE WATCHING FUCKING SPONGEBOB! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/2 "2007-06-12T22:08:05Z")

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I really want to make this up to you. Here’s Freddy’s watch.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/3 "2007-06-12T22:08:47Z")

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**Happy Wanderer** —you’ve been fucking Spongebob?

That’s sick. 😛

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/4 "2007-06-12T22:13:10Z")

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[This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjvMoZR7lXY) one?

She’s dressed in a full vinyl bodysuit that isn’t nearly as tight as it could be.

And all the wife says is that her show is “good”. You’re reading a lot into that.

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/5 "2007-06-12T22:13:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Happy Wanderer]  
THE SICK THINGS MOMMY AND DADDY MIGHT BE SECRETLY INTO  
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Care to share some details?

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/6 "2007-06-12T22:22:13Z")

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I came here expecting to roast yet another overprotective parent, but that clip is WAAAAY over the line for Nick or any given daytime airing.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/7 "2007-06-12T22:26:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Happy Wanderer]  
SO WHY THE FUCK IS THIS SPOT ON ON NICKELODEON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON WHERE MY GODCHILD AND HER PLAYMATE CAN SEE IT?  
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Because (to an innocent) Mistress Mandy is no more provocative than She-Ra, Princess of Power or any other kid-appropriate and colourfully-costumed female type.

Innocents lack the context required to register Mistress Mandy as “sexually deviant.”

If the wife came in while Mistress Mandy was using hubby as a toilet slave or giving him a good old-fashioned pegging, and _then_ was politely asked to leave, you might have something worth a bit of all-caps foaming at the mouth and emoticon abuse. As it stands, you just look a little bit unreasonably uptight.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/8 "2007-06-12T22:37:36Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
I came here expecting to roast yet another overprotective parent, but that clip is WAAAAY over the line for Nick or any given daytime airing.  
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Thanks. As for the other posters, I expected this to be defended by some around here, and lo and behold, it has been. ☹

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/9 "2007-06-12T22:43:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
**Happy Wanderer** —you’ve been fucking Spongebob?

That’s sick. 😛  
[/QUOTE]  
It may well be, but the cleanup is really convenient!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/10 "2007-06-12T22:48:01Z")

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Gotta go with **Larry** on this one. It’s just going to go over the head of the young ones, and over the head of a lot of the not-so-young ones as well. Anybody who does catch anything already knows more than their parents suspect.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/11 "2007-06-12T22:54:36Z")

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Mandy’s flogging technique is terrible. No wrist, the cats don’t stay together and she’s bound to get some wrapping. Surely someone involved with that PSA could have given her a little training.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/12 "2007-06-12T23:01:15Z")

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[QUOTE=kidchameleon]  
[This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjvMoZR7lXY) one?

She’s dressed in a full vinyl bodysuit that isn’t nearly as tight as it could be.  
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Darn the luck!

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> And all the wife says is that her show is “good”. You’re reading a lot into that.

What am I supposed to NOT read into it? She digs shows like this and said so. And the guy is obviously submissive just before that in the spot.

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> Because (to an innocent) Mistress Mandy is no more provocative than She-Ra, Princess of Power or any other kid-appropriate and colourfully-costumed female type.

You gotta be kidding me. The girls were playing happily and chatting and pretty much ignoring the Spongebob rerun, but when the spot came on they dropped silent and listened with undivided attention. I was just walking in and it was clear they were sharing a WTF moment. This would not have happened if they had started showing a clip from Wonder Woman, dammit. Should six year old girls be watching this sort of material? If you are defending that, then I pray you don’t have kids.

I am not a prude, in fact one of the first funny feelings in my pants involved Catwoman and [Batgirl](http://www.oakcliff.com/batgirl_Small.jpg) (Sigh), and I am not these kids parents, just a good friend, but I think this is outrageous. At the risk of turning a perfectly good pit into an IMHO, any dopers think I should make a big deal with the cable company? I am really thinking about it.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/13 "2007-06-12T23:04:33Z")

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Of course, [THE BARONESS](http://k5pbem.devermore.net/pictures/people/marta/marta_baroness.gif) was Dom-ing it up in kidvid, all the way back to the 80’s.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/14 "2007-06-12T23:05:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Mudd]  
a good old-fashioned pegging  
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I must be out of touch, because I wasn’t aware there was newfangled pegging.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/15 "2007-06-12T23:05:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor]  
Of course, [THE BARONESS](http://k5pbem.devermore.net/pictures/people/marta/marta_baroness.gif) was Dom-ing it up in kidvid, all the way back to the 80’s.  
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Damn. Just damn. What show was this? Suddenly I feel culturally lacking! 😉

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/16 "2007-06-12T23:07:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
I must be out of touch, because I wasn’t aware there was newfangled pegging.  
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It’s with more plastic and batteries, and way fewer splinters. Technology can be a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/17 "2007-06-12T23:10:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Happy Wanderer]  
Damn. Just damn. What show was this? Suddenly I feel culturally lacking! 😉  
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GI Joe, dude. She was one of the main villains.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/18 "2007-06-12T23:12:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
GI Joe, dude. She was one of the main villains.  
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Well, she can play with my Great American Hero any time she wants to.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/19 "2007-06-12T23:16:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Happy Wanderer]  
You gotta be kidding me. The girls were playing happily and chatting and pretty much ignoring the Spongebob rerun, but when the spot came on they dropped silent and listened with undivided attention. I was just walking in and it was clear they were sharing a WTF moment. This would not have happened if they had started showing a clip from Wonder Woman, dammit. Should six year old girls be watching this sort of material? If you are defending that, then I pray you don’t have kids.  
[/QUOTE]

Because to kids, anything forbidden is terribly interesting. I’m sure they’ve seen the “I’m not going to let you corrupt my children!” commercials before, and they were probably wondering why Catwoman-minus-mask was in this commercial, and why the mommy in the commercial said she liked her show.

I do question the appropriateness of showing any of those commercials on Nick, however, not just the sex-related one. There’s one with a scary-looking giant horror movie guy, another with a strung-out junkie who looks really emaciated, the mafia one, and so on. Only worrying about the sex one reminds me of the family I saw who took their grade school boys to see John Carpenter’s [Vampires](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120877/) but the parents only covered the kids’ eyes when (zomg) nekkid boobies showed up onscreen.

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**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/20 "2007-06-12T23:23:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Ferret Herder]  
Because to kids, anything forbidden is terribly interesting. I’m sure they’ve seen the “I’m not going to let you corrupt my children!” commercials before, and they were probably wondering why Catwoman-minus-mask was in this commercial, and why the mommy in the commercial said she liked her show.

I do question the appropriateness of showing any of those commercials on Nick, however, not just the sex-related one. There’s one with a scary-looking giant horror movie guy, another with a strung-out junkie who looks really emaciated, the mafia one, and so on. Only worrying about the sex one reminds me of the family I saw who took their grade school boys to see John Carpenter’s [Vampires](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120877/) but the parents only covered the kids’ eyes when (zomg) nekkid boobies showed up onscreen.  
[/QUOTE]  
I agree, but this was the particular spot that came on this afternoon. The fact is, my Goddaughter has seen all kinds of crap that I wouldn’t have her watching, but it isn’t up to me. In any case, it doesn’t seem to have done her any harm so far, in fact she is the model of proper and polite behavior. It probably won’t hurt her, but what about her playpal? She might not have such solid foundations to rely on.

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