# Nickelodeon and explicit adult sadomaschism.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772 "2007-06-12T22:02:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/41 "2007-06-13T14:38:15Z")

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[QUOTE=coffeecat]  
“Oh, she’s just someone in a silly costume they made up for that commercial. I don’t think she really has a show, hon.”  
[/QUOTE]

_applauds_

Good answer! I will steal it if the issue comes up here.

The mobsters simply look like our in-laws, so there’s no problem there. The one that I have the most problem with is the junkie. My daughter (2) gets very worried when I can’t fast forward through that one quickly enough. “Sick?” she asks. “Yes, honey, he’s sick, but he’ll get better,” I lie.

I don’t actually think that she’s going to be scarred for life from any of these ads. I just note the irony of putting them on during children’s programming. (Although to be fair, I haven’t seen the junkie one on Nickelodeon; I’ve only personally seen it during _The Daily Show_ - it’s her favorite show after _Sesame Street_, but not technically a children’s show, so I accept that risk knowingly.)

> [@](#):
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> It bothers me a lot more that, after an episode of On-Demand Barney or Caillou, my cable goes back to the generic pool of on-demand commercials, which can very well be for Hellraiser Part XIX or Satan’s Killer Teddy Bears.

ditto.

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**Author:** ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/42 "2007-06-13T15:19:19Z")

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I just want to chime in with a :dubious: at the references to domination play being “sick” and “deviant.” Not something children should be exposed to, certainly, but that issue aside – do you really think that?

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/43 "2007-06-13T15:23:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Mudd]  
Innocents lack the context required to register Mistress Mandy as “sexually deviant.”

[/QUOTE]

Is that why I notice the gay subtext in the Doodlebops? A male Doodlebob named “Moe” likes to pull on a rope, eh? :dubious:

Disclaimer: IMO, “Gay” does not equal “deviant”, so put your torches down.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/44 "2007-06-13T15:31:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Happy Wanderer]

I am not a prude, in fact one of the first funny feelings in my pants involved Catwoman and [Batgirl](http://www.oakcliff.com/batgirl_Small.jpg) (Sigh), and I am not these kids parents, just a good friend, but I think this is outrageous. At the risk of turning a perfectly good pit into an IMHO, any dopers think I should make a big deal with the cable company? I am really thinking about it.  
[/QUOTE]

While I have sympathy for your view that this was inappropriate to be aired on Nickleodeon, where I might call you a prude is in your description of consensual sado-masochism as:

[QUOTE=Happy Wanderer]  
THE SICK THINGS MOMMY AND DADDY MIGHT BE SECRETLY INTO  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/45 "2007-06-13T15:33:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer]  
I am officially in love with you, **gigi**. I have given orders to the monkeys that, once I am God-King of America, you are not to be executed without good reason.  
[/QUOTE]

Yes! Finally, I’ve got it made!

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**Author:** ![scareyfaerie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scareyfaerie/32/3135_2.png) [@scareyfaerie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scareyfaerie)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/46 "2007-06-13T15:34:22Z")

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Hmmm…nice outfit…how come kid’s TV gets all the good stuff?

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/47 "2007-06-13T15:40:17Z")

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[QUOTE=kidchameleon]  
[This](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjvMoZR7lXY) one?

She’s dressed in a full vinyl bodysuit that isn’t nearly as tight as it could be.

And all the wife says is that her show is “good”. You’re reading a lot into that.  
[/QUOTE]  
Well, ah, I don’t know-- at least, not at this point.

Y’see, I’m at the local library (downtown branch) and have just received a bright red, Your-Access-has-been-Blocked from the county-wide system.

I mean, there could be all sorts of stuff at the site besides an image of Mandy, but at this point it doesn’t look good…

Just felt I had to share that.

* * *

True Blue Jack

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/48 "2007-06-13T15:46:51Z")

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[QUOTE=ShelliBean]  
I beg to differ, my good man. Just this morning on the way to day camp I was asked by the six y/o (in his typical random fashion) “So how long do you have to do sex to end up with a baby?” I didn’t really understand if he was asking how many times or length of a session of sex so I asked some questions and he specifically asked me how many minutes it should take for a man to finish and get a woman pregnant (in much more juvenile language, of course). Now part of this is because I try to maintain honest, fact based answers every time he asks about this stuff so it’s not like asking about sex is unheard of at my house. So, he is interested. Not in an excited way, just curious for information.

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So what did you say?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/49 "2007-06-13T15:57:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Dolores Reborn]  
So what did you say?  
[/QUOTE]

“Tell all your friends your dad can go all night”?

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/50 "2007-06-13T16:14:01Z")

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[QUOTE=fessie]  
Yesterday I had to explain why the Sam-I-Am doll doesn’t have a penis.  
I’m driving the car, changing lanes in fact, and all of a sudden I’m supposed to have a ready answer?  
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The phrase you need is a firm, “We’ll talk about that later.” Especially useful when the child pipes up with an innocent, loud, and dirty question on the bus or in church. Allows you to make a face-saving exit and gives you time to think of an appropriate answer.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/51 "2007-06-13T16:16:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Typo Knig]  
Are any of the ads in this series appropriate to air during Spongebob - even if Mr. Crabs changed the name of his establishment to the “Club Badda Crab”?  
[/QUOTE]

Well, Mr. Krabs did go on a panty raid to feel young once- although he got in trouble after it turned out it was _his own mother’s house_ he was raiding.

I just think it’s kind of ironic that the ad in question is about parental controls.

> [@fessie](#):
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> “Adult themes” aren’t supposed to be on the kiddie channels. Period.

Many of the shows do have double entendres in the style of the old Looney Tunes\*, as well as other jokes that only adults would get. But I don’t think any of the shows today toe the line as much as, say _Ren & Stimpy_ or _Rocko’s Modern Life_ used to.

\*Yes, I realize the old Looney Tunes and such were made for adult audiences. But if you think about it, when they were shown on kid-friendly TV, it’s surprising that the violence and jokes about minorities were edited out but the jokes featuring attractive women and men ogling them were kept in when they were shown on kid-friendly TV. Are the [sexy Tex Avery women](http://www.texavery.com/shots/babe3.jpg) really any worse than Mistress Mandy?

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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/52 "2007-06-13T16:39:40Z")

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[QUOTE=matt\_mcl]  
The phrase you need is a firm, “We’ll talk about that later.” Especially useful when the child pipes up with an innocent, loud, and dirty question on the bus or in church. Allows you to make a face-saving exit and gives you time to think of an appropriate answer.  
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:: patting self on back :: Actually, I explained to him right quick that Sam-I-Am doesn’t have a penis because we don’t play with other people’s penises. Same reason why Barbie doesn’t have a vagina (heading that one off at the pass). 😛

I agree that little tykes have no sense of context (they’d BETTER NOT have any sense of context). It’s just - why even introduce it?

Same reason I no longer watch the evening news. Sure, I could come up with a thousand pablum explanations for all the violence, but why create a dual reality that has to be discarded later?

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**Author:** ![TommyTutone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@TommyTutone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyTutone)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/53 "2007-06-13T16:40:17Z")

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[QUOTE=ShelliBean]  
I beg to differ, my good man. Just this morning on the way to day camp I was asked by the six y/o (in his typical random fashion) “So how long do you have to do sex to end up with a baby?” I didn’t really understand if he was asking how many times or length of a session of sex so I asked some questions and he specifically asked me how many minutes it should take for a man to finish and get a woman pregnant (in much more juvenile language, of course). Now part of this is because I try to maintain honest, fact based answers every time he asks about this stuff so it’s not like asking about sex is unheard of at my house. So, he is interested. Not in an excited way, just curious for information.

[/QUOTE]

Well it depends on when the ball game starts.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/54 "2007-06-13T17:03:37Z")

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[QUOTE=fessie]  
:: patting self on back :: Actually, I explained to him right quick that Sam-I-Am doesn’t have a penis because we don’t play with other people’s penises.  
[/QUOTE]

I know that was a straightforward answer to a kid’s serious question, but damn, that just cracked me up. You deserve that pat on the back.

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**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/55 "2007-06-13T17:07:32Z")

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[QUOTE=fessie]  
we don’t play with other people’s penises.  
[/QUOTE]

That is a pretty broad brush you are painting with…  
AB  
Penis Petter

Now let’s see who is in favor of having their penis played with.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/56 "2007-06-13T17:08:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Are the sexy Tex Avery women really any worse than Mistress Mandy?

Forget them (and the Preston Blair-animated beauties) – how about Jessica Rabbit

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yy5THitqPBw/hqdefault.jpg "Jessica Rabbit - Why don't you do right") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy5THitqPBw)

[http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DJessica%2BRabbit&w=250&h=350&imgcurl=img303.imageshack.us%2Fimg303%2F2991%2Fjessicarabbit32gg.jpg&size=46.4&name=&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsatellitesoda.com%2FphpBB2%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D249&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsatellitesoda.com%2FphpBB2%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D249&p=Jessica+Rabbit&type=jpeg&no=3&tt=3%2C250](http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DJessica%2BRabbit&w=250&h=350&imgcurl=img303.imageshack.us%2Fimg303%2F2991%2Fjessicarabbit32gg.jpg&size=46.4&name=&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsatellitesoda.com%2FphpBB2%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D249&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsatellitesoda.com%2FphpBB2%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D249&p=Jessica+Rabbit&type=jpeg&no=3&tt=3%2C250)

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/57 "2007-06-13T17:13:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Auntbeast]  
Now let’s see who is in favor of having their penis played with.  
[/QUOTE]

My post is my cite.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/58 "2007-06-13T17:16:44Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
Forget them (and the Preston Blair-animated beauties) – how about Jessica Rabbit  
[/QUOTE]

She isn’t bad- she’s…ah, forget it. You know.

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/59 "2007-06-13T17:20:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Auntbeast]

Now let’s see who is in favor of having their penis played with.  
[/QUOTE]

Depends what game. Soccer - no. Skeet Shooting - yes.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nickelodeon-and-explicit-adult-sadomaschism/407772/60 "2007-06-13T17:22:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Taber]  
Depends what game. Soccer - no. Skeet Shooting - yes.  
[/QUOTE]

Not if you’re the Skeet!!!

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