# Nicole Brown Simpson died 25 years ago today

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 12, 2019, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446 "2019-06-12T22:19:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/21 "2019-06-14T12:44:39Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> I can’t imagine how broken up OJ must be that he \*still \*hasn’t found the ‘real killer’. :rolleyes:

As Jay Leno once said, \*Come on, how much does a mirror cost?  
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/22 "2019-06-14T12:45:48Z")

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My personal take is that he did it, and the cops framed him. If they’d just done their job properly, they’d probably have been able to put him away for life. But instead, they planted evidence to “guarantee” that they’d get him, and when that came to light, it created enough reasonable doubt that he went free.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/23 "2019-06-14T12:49:55Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> I understand why people became so interested in the trial and it being a symbol of race relations (country wide) and policing in LA.
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> What I never understood is why many people seemed (and seem) so upset by her and Ron’s murder. Yea, murder is bad, I got it. But a lot of people get murdered.
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> Did Nicole Simpson cure cancer or something when I wasn’t paying attention?
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> Is there any particular reason why I should feel more sad for them than for any other of the tens of thousands of murder victims?

I didn’t follow it that closely and I don’t know how representative I am but what drew my attention and antipathy is someone using the fact that he’s rich & famous to get away with murders.

That and America celebrity/news culture; If Charlie Sheen or Tom Brady killed two people and didn’t go to prison for it, there’d be a lot of media attention too.

Also, wasn’t that the time that 24hours news started to become widespread? The potential for intense, unrelenting coverage was there and just needed a match that involved race, money, fame, power and murder.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/24 "2019-06-14T13:28:15Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> My personal take is that he did it, and the cops framed him. If they’d just done their job properly, they’d probably have been able to put him away for life. But instead, they planted evidence to “guarantee” that they’d get him, and when that came to light, it created enough reasonable doubt that he went free.

Another old joke: The LAPD is so incompetent they couldn’t frame a guilty man.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/25 "2019-06-14T23:37:52Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> My personal take is that he did it, and the cops framed him. If they’d just done their job properly, they’d probably have been able to put him away for life. But instead, they planted evidence to “guarantee” that they’d get him, and when that came to light, it created enough reasonable doubt that he went free.

Quite possibly; I recall people commenting at the time that the LAPD was so used to framing innocent black men they honestly didn’t know how to properly handle a case where he _was_ guilty. They framed him because that was just standard procedure for them and it never occurred to them \*not \*to.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/26 "2019-06-17T03:48:04Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> I understand why people became so interested in the trial and it being a symbol of race relations (country wide) and policing in LA. What I never understood is why many people seemed (and seem) so upset by her and Ron’s murder. Yea, murder is bad, I got it. But a lot of people get murdered.
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> Did Nicole Simpson cure cancer or something when I wasn’t paying attention?
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> Is there any particular reason why I should feel more sad for them than for any other of the tens of thousands of murder victims?

As already said, we heard a lot more about her life than we normally hear about murder victims’ lives. And one of the things we heard a lot about was her being a battered wife, living in fear of her husband, then getting divorced and thinking she was free. And look what happened. That hits hard with many people.

As for Ron Goldman, it sucked for him because he didn’t do anything except be there and be a guy. Being a young, good-looking guy probably didn’t help either. If you’ve ever heard of [Linda Sobek](https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Linda_Sobek), a lot of people were saddened by that, too. No one had heard of her before she was murdered, but it could have happened to a lot of women no one had heard of.

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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/27 "2019-06-17T04:12:40Z")

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maybe relevant (or not relevant?) to this thread, you have to be of a certain age to remember this dumbass TV show, but here’s a segment from the 1992 TV dating-show “Studs” that featured Ron Goldman, in case you’ve never seen it before:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6riN8FQHwyI/hqdefault.jpg "1992 STUDS with Ron Goldman - January") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6riN8FQHwyI)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/28 "2019-06-17T19:08:47Z")

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That reminds me, look [who’s](https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32) decided to take a stab at Twitter!

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/29 "2019-06-17T20:07:11Z")

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We all know how OJ signs off from the Internet - //\ esc.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/30 "2019-06-17T21:00:59Z")

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I should add that I have a distant relative (of sorts) for whom OJ was the best man at her son’s wedding about 30 years ago. (They’re still married.) How did this happen, you may ask? He was a member of the camera crew on the Hertz commercials, and he and OJ were best buds (or so he thought) and that’s how it all happened.

Thing was, Nicole was a guestzilla and when it was reported a few years later that they were divorcing, nobody was surprised. However, even her son did not know the REAL reason why, not at the time anyway.

I also saw a TV interview some years back with one of Nicole’s sisters, who has become a prominent DV advocate. One thing that she found beyond shocking was going into women’s prisons to speak, and finding out how many women were in there for abusing their husbands or boyfriends - something they knew was wrong, and they did not want to do that when they got out. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/31 "2019-06-17T21:10:27Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> As for Ron Goldman, it sucked for him because he didn’t do anything except be there and be a guy.

I think I get your point, but Nicole Simpson didn’t “do anything” either.

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/32 "2019-06-18T03:01:50Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> My personal take is that he did it, and the cops framed him. If they’d just done their job properly, they’d probably have been able to put him away for life. But instead, they planted evidence to “guarantee” that they’d get him, and when that came to light, it created enough reasonable doubt that he went free.

What evidence did they plant?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/33 "2019-06-18T03:51:03Z")

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I think he’s referring to OJ’s bloody socks?

Left in his bedroom. They looked out of place. Maybe because OJ was rushing to meet his cab or maybe they were planted?

They don’t appear in a crime scene video.

I don’t know. It’s always been debated since the trial. A lot of stuff about the case has been debated.

> **[Cop saw socks in O.J.'s bedroom - UPI Archives](https://www.upi.com/Archives/1995/07/20/Cop-saw-socks-in-OJs-bedroom/4969806212800/)**
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> Trying to support their claim that evidence was planted, the defense called a police photographerto the stand Thursday to testify he did not see a crucial...

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/34 "2019-06-18T04:38:14Z")

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It doesn’t particularly matter to me.

The bulk of the evidence points directly at OJ.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/35 "2019-06-18T08:16:30Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Alternate theories to the “OJ did it” scenario:
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> Jason Simpson his son did it.

I don’t know if the evidence stacks up to support this theory, but when I first heard it, it did seem a plausible explanation for the ensuing shamozzle and inconsistencies. It felt like it could’ve been a clumsy attempt at a cover-up.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/36 "2019-06-18T13:44:21Z")

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Let’s put this in a nutshell: Two people who did not deserve to die were slaughtered like sides of beef, and somebody got away with double murder.

That is an outrage. Anything else is secondary.

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**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/37 "2019-07-13T20:35:26Z")

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> [@zbuzz](#):
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> What evidence did they plant?

The matching bloody glove was found in his house.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nicole-brown-simpson-died-25-years-ago-today/835446/38 "2019-07-13T20:59:19Z")

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In the meantime, I saw a brief interview with Ron Goldman’s sister. She looks EXACTLY like their dad did at the time of the murders, in woman form.

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