# Nigerian Scam? now a Dutch Scam??

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 22, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444 "2006-11-22T18:01:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/1 "2006-11-22T18:01:17Z")

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What’s your take on this?REF Number: BG/HV45232/HU67  
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD  
DEPARTMENT  
NATIONALE POSTCODE LOTERIJ,  
AMSTERDAM- NETHERLANDS  
RESULTS  
FOR CATEGORY “A” DRAWS

Congratulations to you as we bring to  
your notice, the results of the Second Category draws of NATIONALE  
POSTCODE PROMO INTERNATIONAL. We are happy to inform you that you have  
emerged a winner under the First Category, which is part of our  
promotional draws. The draws are being officially announced today 22nd  
of NOVEMBER, 2006. Participants were selected through a computer ballot  
system drawn from 2,500,000 email addresses of individuals and  
companies from Africa, America, Asia, Australia,Europe, Middle East,  
and Oceania as part of our International Promotions Program.

Your e-  
mail address, attached to ticket number 36474, with serial number 564-  
67549 drew the lucky numbers W-456473-HÂ°45/B7 and consequently won in  
the First Category.You have therefore been awarded a lump sum pay out  
of 1,000,000 (One Million Euros), which is the winning payout for  
Category A winners.This is from a total cash prize of 10,000,000.00  
Million Euros shared amongst the first Ten (10) lucky winners in this  
category.

CONGRATULATIONS!  
Your fund is now deposited with the  
paying Bank.In your best interest to aviod mix up of numbers and names  
of any kind, we request that you keep the entire details of your award  
strictly from public notice until the process of transferring your  
claims has been completed, and your funds remitted to your account.This  
is part of our security protocol to avoid double claiming or  
unscrupulous acts by participants/non participants of this program.  
Please contact your claims agent immediately for due processing and  
remittance of your prize money to a designated account of your choice:

You are advised to contact the agents by email.Failure to do so may  
warrant disqualification.  
NOTE: For easy reference and identification,  
find below your Reference and Batch numbers. Remember to quote these  
numbers in your correspondence,your full names and telephone numbers  
when responding to this email,for proper verification process.  
REF  
Number: BG/HV45232/HU67  
BATCH No: BG/364744/YEW.

To file for your  
claim,please contact the fiduciary agent.

Mr. SMITH REED.  
FOREIGN  
TRANSFER MANAGER,  
NATIONALE POSTCODE LOTTERIJ,  
AMSTERDAM,THE  
NETHERLANDS.  
TELEPHONE:+31-620- 630-979  
FAX: +31-847-106-  
545.  
Reply Email: [claimcentrenl@aol.com](mailto:claimcentrenl@aol.com)

All winnings must be  
notarized to complete the claim process; winners will be referred to a  
Foreign Transfer Manager,to have their winnings notarized.Winners are  
to cover the legal charges not NATIONALE POSTCODE LOTERIJ,also you have  
two weeks to from the date of this publication to claim your prize or  
forefeit your winnings.  
Congratulations once again from all our staff  
and thank you for being part of our promotions program.

Sincerely  
Yours,  
MARIA THOMPSON.  
THE PROMOTION COORDINATOR,  
By golly-Im rich! Dutch dopers-is this legit? what’s this about “unscrupulous acts”?

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/2 "2006-11-22T18:37:18Z")

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Those have been going around for some time now – both by E-Mail and postal mail. I’ve received both flavours. These ones seem to come predominantly from northern Europe and they always seem to take the form of a foreign lottery you don’t remember buying a ticket for.

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**Author:** ![tbdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@tbdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tbdi)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/3 "2006-11-22T18:45:12Z")

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[QUOTE=ralph124c]  
What’s your take on this?  
…winners will be referred to a Foreign Transfer Manager,to have their winnings notarized.Winners are to cover the legal charges…

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And, of course, once you send the money to cover the “legal charges” you will never hear from them again.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/4 "2006-11-22T19:03:38Z")

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**tbdi** wrote? (not clear)

“And, of course, once you send the money to cover the “legal charges” you will never hear from them again.”

Actually, that is when it begins. If you reveal you are stupid enough to send any money, they start really working you. More fees, bank account #, etc. Then once you start complaining, you start getting “help” from “police” to try and recover your money. Of course there is a fee involved in that.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/5 "2006-11-22T19:41:12Z")

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The Nigerian style scam email I got recently was–or claimed to be–from the Philippines.

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/6 "2006-11-22T23:29:42Z")

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I assume that, no matter where it claims to be from, it’s really Nigerians running it.

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**Author:** ![Rayne\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df705f/32.png) [@Rayne\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayne_Man)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/7 "2006-11-23T07:34:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Neidhart]  
I assume that, no matter where it claims to be from, it’s really Nigerians running it.  
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That’s true. The Spanish police arrested a whole load of Nigerians who were running a phoney Spanish lottery scam a few months ago. So they were operating within Spain.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/8 "2006-11-23T07:48:59Z")

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My wife wound one of them up a few months ago, and I traced the IP to Togo.

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/9 "2006-11-23T08:07:41Z")

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[QUOTE=jjimm]  
My wife wound one of them up a few months ago, and I traced the IP to Togo.  
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I have great fun winding these merchants up.

I get an e-mail and reply as The Reverend Charles Mingephlapps of the Church of the Holy Vulvae.

I’ve had these guys send me pics. of them holding up signs which say “I Worship the Vulvae”.

If you wanna look at these signs and some others go to [www.419eater.com](http://www.419eater.com)

Hope I don’t upset the mods posting that site.

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**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/10 "2006-11-23T19:21:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
The Nigerian style scam email I got recently was–or claimed to be–from the Philippines.  
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The one I got most recently purported to be from “David Godwin,” claiming to be a “registered Financial Security Agent (FSA) in the UK attached to the department of Treasury” of the Bank of England.

Only, he signed the letter “David Godday,” and his return email address ended with .ru. From Russia with love, I suppose.

Still, I’m very excited to help him with his investment opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/11 "2006-11-23T19:31:52Z")

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what place uses .sg as a url suffix?

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/12 "2006-11-23T19:45:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
what place uses .sg as a url suffix?  
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Singapore.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/13 "2006-11-23T19:54:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Mindfield]  
Singapore.  
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Thanks. That’s where my scam email appears to have originated from.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2006, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nigerian-scam-now-a-dutch-scam/381444/14 "2006-11-24T13:44:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
The Nigerian style scam email I got recently was–or claimed to be–from the Philippines.  
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I got that one recently. Mentioned Filipina in the title and didn’t sound like pr0n. As my wife is a Filipina, I thought it might be family. We got a good laugh that they’ve expanded their base of operations.
