# Nightline reads Iraq American casualty list

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 1, 2004, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightline-reads-iraq-american-casualty-list/242965 "2004-05-01T10:48:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zagadka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zagadka/32/7272_2.png) [@Zagadka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zagadka)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightline-reads-iraq-american-casualty-list/242965/41 "2004-05-02T02:56:12Z")

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> [@Milum](#):
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> Zagadka with much shallow thought said…
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> Oh I do so much love the spokesmen for the Left, such sophomoric articulation, such youthful directness of thought.
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> Now tell me little boys, do you get your jollies telling grown folk to “fuck off”?
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> _(Maybe it was permissive parents; maybe it was TV. God only knows?)_

Yes, yes I do. Do you get your jollies urinating on Iraqi POWs?

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightline-reads-iraq-american-casualty-list/242965/42 "2004-05-02T03:31:17Z")

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> [@Milum](#):
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> ElvisL1ves wanted completeness…
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> Oh yes, completeness.
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> Let’s begin with pictures of the 3000 men and women who were in the twin towers when they crumbled to the ground.

For Christ’s sake **Milum** , no less than that bastion of the “liberal media”, mouthpiece of the left, New York Times spent months at least doing a page a day of profiles of the people who died in the Twin Towers.

If you are going to yell bias every time someone honors American dead in a way that you think is not politically correct then you can at least get your freakin’ facts straight!

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightline-reads-iraq-american-casualty-list/242965/43 "2004-05-02T03:51:36Z")

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My local ABC affilliate is a Sinclair station, and it was on in the other room while I was cooking. (Yes, I frequently cook at 11:30 at night.) They ran their own half-hour “special report”, which as far as I could tell was part explanation for why they didn’t run it, and part (bigger part) their own sort of memorial, which appeared to be the usual schmaltzy God-Bless-the-USA type of thing where the human cost is mentioned only in vague terms.

Did anyone catch more than my fractured viewing of this?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2004, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightline-reads-iraq-american-casualty-list/242965/44 "2004-05-02T19:36:49Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Yes John, I’m aware of Tillman’s demise. Is there some reason that it’s inappropriately political to ever focus on _just the one_ where the most americans are getting killed?

I thought \*\*Sam \*\* had a good point about Afghanistan in terms of trying to divine the motive behind this show. You are the one wha is adding the term “inappropriate” to the action. Something can be political (which this appears to be, at least to some extent) and still be appropriate.

The debate here is: are they honoring the dead, or making a political statement. Looks like a little of both, and I don’t think there is anything wrong with that.

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> At ~4.6 deaths per day in April, Iraq is running at about a third the rate of Vietnam. Don’t those numbers deserve a little more attention than the president’s wink and nod routine? What do you think would be an appropriate way to highlight this continuing sacrifice? Whatever your answer is to that, you’ll have to implement it yourself, because the administration seems content to leave a vacuum around the issue.

It’s a bit disingenuous to compare the death rate of one month to Vietnam. But the media folks are free to make any statement they deem appropriate.

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