# Nightmare on Elm Street remade **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 16, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303 "2010-04-16T04:12:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/21 "2010-04-17T02:58:47Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > I just hope they don’t make a remake of Nightmare on Elm Street 2. What they need to do is make a remake of the original Nightmare on Elm Street, wait two years, and then reboot the franchise with a brand new Nightmare on Elm Street I (version 3). Then you can start making remake sequels. > I believe this is the accepted money-making procedure nowadays. Well, since there _isn’t_ a NOES 2 (lalalalaican’thearyoulalalala), they _could_ actually film one and fill in that strange, bizzare hole in the original NOES series… ---
**Author:** ![Super\_Kapowzler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Super\_Kapowzler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Kapowzler)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/22 "2010-04-17T03:29:33Z")
Shit, I saw the first 3 in the theatres. But the best part, THE BEST is the burrow-through-the-walls-and-out-pops George Lynch doin the solo from Dream Warriors on a custom ESP. Rock on Freddie, kill 'em all. ---
**Author:** ![BaneSidhe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BaneSidhe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BaneSidhe)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/23 "2010-04-17T04:06:11Z")
Why in the HELL are they remaking NOES in the first place? Has H-wood run out of ideas so now they have to remake movies that aren’t all that old? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/24 "2010-04-17T04:11:10Z")
> [@BaneSidhe](#): > > Why in the HELL are they remaking NOES in the first place? Has H-wood run out of ideas so now they have to remake movies that aren’t all that old? Because they know that chances are you’ll be buying a ticket. They want to squeeze every dollar they can out of the intellectual property that they have. They really don’t care about the integrity of the series, or any other series. Edit: I laughed when I posted this and realized that I’d mentioned “the integrity of the series” in regards to NOES. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/25 "2010-04-17T04:23:02Z")
What in the world is your definition of ‘not that old’? It’s _26 years_ old. It’s had 8 sequels since the original. The last one _7 years ago_. Contrast The Maltese Falcon, which had 3 versions in 10 years. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/26 "2010-04-17T08:54:07Z")
So just make another sequel. It’s not like there’s any real continuity to restart anyway. And the most recent one was actually pretty good, relatively speaking. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/27 "2010-04-17T15:21:24Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > What in the world is your definition of ‘not that old’? > > It’s _26 years_ old. It’s had 8 sequels since the original. The last one _7 years ago_. :eek: That was SEVEN years ago, already? Time flies! If you’d asked me I would’ve said “Oh, two years ago or so.” > [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Edit: I laughed when I posted this and realized that I’d mentioned “the integrity of the series” in regards to NOES. Its kind of like saying the remake will cheapen the artistic value of the original, isn’t it? But going back to what I’d said before, a reviewer for “Hannibal Rising” made agood point that showing the origin of Hannibal Lecter was the equivalent of throwing the closet door wide open to show a child that the “monster” in the closet is really a pile of clothes. A good part of what makes Hannibal such a marvelously evil villain is that he’s a bit beyond your comprehension. We couldn’t understand how such a person could come into being. My fear is that they’ll “open the closet door” on Freddy with his origin. I don’t want to know how he came back. I don’t want to know how he got the power to slip into our dreams and make them reality. It was good enough for me to know that he was such a malevolent stew of evil, that he somehow seeped into the dark corners of the limbo-space of the dream dimension. The mythical unknown is scarier. I’m worried that the new movie will reveal how he got the power to come into our dreams. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/28 "2010-04-17T23:58:40Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > I don’t like the idea of actually _showing us_ his origin story, however, and the trailers suggest it. > [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > My fear is that they’ll “open the closet door” on Freddy with his origin. I don’t want to know how he came back. I don’t want to know how he got the power to slip into our dreams and make them reality. They already showed the original Freddy’s origin on screen. It was the first episode of Freddy’s Nightmares. I thought it was cool, but I was young and really into anything Freddy at the time (I must’ve listened to that DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince song a thousand times). Then they added a bunch of weird dream demon shit to it in Freddy’s Dead (which is the one people should really be pretending doesn’t exist, 2 was alright, albeit different, but I digress) to explain how he came back in dreams. Yeah, they shouldn’ta done that. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/29 "2010-04-18T00:06:37Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > :eek: That was SEVEN years ago, already? Time flies! Close enough. August 2003. It doesn’t really seem that long, does it? (The original does seem to be very old, though…I was 7 years old when it came out.) ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/30 "2010-04-18T03:05:08Z")
I may be misremembering but in the original first movie, I got the impression that Freddy wasn’t quite “real”, but that he was something like a viral meme, an urban legend that had a quasi-existence in the collective subconcious of the town. And that the heroine of the movie may have been somehow arranging or setting up the deaths without realizing it. It was only in the later movies that he became a real supernatural menace. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/31 "2010-04-18T03:27:42Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Jason, **Mike Myers** or Leatherface are just silent guys in masks killing people. _Michael_ Myers. I think the distinction needs to be made. Austin Powers never sliced people up in ever-increasingly elaborate and gruesome ways. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/32 "2010-04-18T04:07:17Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I may be misremembering but in the original first movie, I got the impression that Freddy wasn’t quite “real”, but that he was something like a viral meme, an urban legend that had a quasi-existence in the collective subconcious of the town. And that the heroine of the movie may have been somehow arranging or setting up the deaths without realizing it. It was only in the later movies that he became a real supernatural menace. Freddy did that to make her look crazy so that she’d be in an even more vulnerable place when he went in for the kill. Freddy was a sick freak he was. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/33 "2010-04-18T12:16:40Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > _Michael_ Myers. I think the distinction needs to be made. Austin Powers never sliced people up in ever-increasingly elaborate and gruesome ways. He only did that to THE CAT IN THE HAT. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/34 "2010-04-22T01:10:54Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I may be misremembering but in the original first movie, I got the impression that Freddy wasn’t quite “real”, but that he was something like a viral meme, an urban legend that had a quasi-existence in the collective subconcious of the town. And that the heroine of the movie may have been somehow arranging or setting up the deaths without realizing it. It was only in the later movies that he became a real supernatural menace. Yeah, you could totally come up with a plausible theory like that. I have a slightly different one. We know people in that universe sometimes get some weird dream powers. Let’s say Nancy’s got the power to make dreams come true (this is why she could pull Freddy’s hat out of her dream). She, on some subconscious level, remembers all the stuff about the real child killer Fred Kruger that went on when she was a kid, and mixed with her powers, makes him real. That’s why she can (temporarily) defeat him by turning her back on him – she brought him into this world, she can take him out. But by that point he’s taken on enough of a life of his own that any teens knowing about him is enough that he can come back. Cue Jesse finding the diary in part 2… Not saying that’s necessarily what they were going for, just it’s another way to look at it. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/35 "2010-04-22T01:21:01Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I may be misremembering but in the original first movie, I got the impression that Freddy wasn’t quite “real”, but that he was something like a viral meme, an urban legend that had a quasi-existence in the collective subconcious of the town. And that the heroine of the movie may have been somehow arranging or setting up the deaths without realizing it. It was only in the later movies that he became a real supernatural menace. I always liked this explanation. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/36 "2010-04-22T01:28:11Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > They already showed the original Freddy’s origin on screen. It was the first episode of Freddy’s Nightmares. They also showed a very brief origin in “Freddy vs Jason.” Hell, both Freddy’s origin and the scene with him tempting Jason to come to Elm Street were legitimately good, at least as far as horror movies go. The rest was pretty bad, though…too campy to be a legit horror movie, like Evil Dead 2, but not campy enough to be a straight up horror comedy, like Army of Darkness, :p. ---
**Author:** ![Arglefraster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@Arglefraster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arglefraster)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/37 "2010-04-23T19:32:36Z")
Every time I read NOES in this thread, my brain goes “Oh noes!” I’m torn on this. I’m annoyed by the whole “we dont’ have ideas for new movies so let’s just remake old ones” trend. However, I think Jackie Earl Haley will do a really good job with the role. Maybe I’ll wait for DVD. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303/38 "2010-04-26T16:43:28Z")
I don’t like those “dream or reality?” scenes, over and over, so I’m not too interested. That said, I did enjoy Freddie vs. Jason for some reason. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightmare-on-elm-street-remade/536303.md?page=1)