# NightRabbit-When did you realize, vis-a-vis other kids, that you are a piece of shit? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 28, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096 "2008-03-28T20:11:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/101 "2008-03-29T21:26:14Z")
[QUOTE=Jragon] Post #27 of this thread (snipps and bolding of course by me) It may not be a cut and dry “I’m sorry” but it is really an apology, she says she didn’t know the facts well and apologizes for the misinformation (the fact that iirc there were bigwigs there notwithstanding because she could’ve missed that too). [/QUOTE] She says she was wrong. Where does she apologize? If she meant “vacant of important people” when she said “vacant,” then she is a bigger dipshit then she previously appeared to be. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/102 "2008-03-29T21:33:22Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] She says she was wrong. Where does she apologize? If she meant “vacant of important people” when she said “vacant,” then she is a bigger dipshit then she previously appeared to be. [/QUOTE] Eh, that’s how I apologize a lot of the time. YOu don’t need to say “I’m sorry” to apologize, just admit your fault. And she may not have known the second point of yours, yes there was a post in the thread that said there were important people but she easily could’ve missed it (she’s obviously swept up in the fact that noones giving here a fair chance anymore and that can lead to bad processing of information). And not every little mistake makes her a “dipshit.” She really doesn’t act like most conspiracy buffs I’ve seen. She’s not rebutting every post with a link to yet ANOTHER techno-picture video and saying “I’m just making information present.” She’s honestly admitting she doesn’t nescessarily know and doesn’t want to persue it too far but people keep egging her on and heckling her and pushing and pushing at it. Not to mention I think “I already apologized” counts as a de facto apology if she didn’t already because it at least emans she meant to. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/103 "2008-03-29T21:45:55Z")
[QUOTE=Jragon] Eh, that’s how I apologize a lot of the time. YOu don’t need to say “I’m sorry” to apologize, just admit your fault. [/QUOTE] I completely disagree. Saying she was wrong is not apologizing for giving misleading information. It’s merely admitting an error. > [@](#): > > And not every little mistake makes her a “dipshit.” No, discounting the lives of those who died because they were not “bigwigs” makes her a dipshit. > [@](#): > > Not to mention I think “I already apologized” counts as a de facto apology if she didn’t already because it at least emans she meant to. Or, she’s a lying sack of shit who is just trying to cover her ass and hoping no one will notice. It’s pretty clear form this thread that her schtick involves claiming she never said what she said. Why is it not surprising for her to claim she said something she didn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/104 "2008-03-29T21:51:46Z")
She apologized in post #38 of this thread: [QUOTE=NightRabbit] I humbly apologize for throwing out sites I’m not familiar with to justify beliefs that I never called my own because I felt attacked and defensive. [/QUOTE] However, quite frankly I can’t tell if she’s being serious or sarcastic, and I’m leaning toward the latter based on what I’m seeing. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/105 "2008-03-29T22:25:23Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] So consider this the George Kaplin approach. [/QUOTE] Fair enough then. ---
**Author:** ![NightRabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbce88/32.png) [@NightRabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NightRabbit)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/106 "2008-03-29T22:45:20Z")
[QUOTE=NightRabbit] I humbly apologize for throwing out sites I’m not familiar with to justify beliefs that I never called my own because I felt attacked and defensive. [/QUOTE] Post #38, first page. I also acknowledged multiple times that I had some wrong information and I am misinformed. In case people need an explicit apology, I’m sorry I posted information from fallible memory without bothering to look it up, and for letting my defensiveness get the better of me. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/107 "2008-03-29T22:59:55Z")
Now bark like a dog! ---
**Author:** ![NightRabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbce88/32.png) [@NightRabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NightRabbit)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/108 "2008-03-30T00:39:54Z")
Don’t press your luck! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/109 "2008-03-30T09:26:56Z")
Ah, a good old-fashioned SDMB pile-on by the regular players. ZZZZzzzz. **NightRabbit** , you’re not alone in your doubts about 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/110 "2008-03-30T10:19:27Z")
[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett] **NightRabbit** , you’re not alone in your doubts about 9/11. [/QUOTE] Absolutely. I saw Elvis Presley in the supermarket only yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/111 "2008-03-30T17:04:54Z")
[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett] Ah, a good old-fashioned SDMB pile-on by the regular players. ZZZZzzzz. **NightRabbit** , you’re not alone in your doubts about 9/11. [/QUOTE] Perhaps you’d like to tell us what happened that day, oh wise one? ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/112 "2008-03-30T17:19:22Z")
Haven’t read the whole thread, but I don’t get what the 184 or whatever people who died have to do with anything **NightRabbit** said? He said he doubts the events, didn’t say fuck everyone who died, or that they don’t matter (did he)? I don’t get you listing them in the other thread either- kind of like Michael Moore showing Heston the picture of a girl killed by a gun, only less relevant. Those people who died would’ve died if it was a CT or not- are you saying there’s no way the US could have done it because Amercians died as a result, and the US wouldn’t do something like that? I’m not saying I agree with the CT, but don’t see where NR said anything inflammatory. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/113 "2008-03-30T17:22:12Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] Haven’t read the whole thread, but I don’t get what the 184 or whatever people who died have to do with anything **NightRabbit** said? [/QUOTE] **NightRabbit** made the assertion, since apologized for, that the section of the Pentagon that the plane hit was devoid of any employees (and that it was “convenient” that this was the case). ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/114 "2008-03-30T17:24:55Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] Haven’t read the whole thread [/QUOTE] Then your post is pretty much irrelevant, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/115 "2008-03-30T17:26:51Z")
[QUOTE=Garfield226] **NightRabbit** made the assertion, since apologized for, that the section of the Pentagon that the plane hit was devoid of any employees. [/QUOTE] My apologies then but still don’t see anything in his posts that insults any of the dead or expresses anything but doubt that the US wasn’t involved. Some believe in UFO’s, or JFK CT’s, most don’t, I see this as similar but just don’t get the vitriol here that wouldn’t be present in the others. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/116 "2008-03-30T17:28:22Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] Haven’t read the whole thread, but I don’t get what the 184 or whatever people who died have to do with anything **NightRabbit** said? [/QUOTE] At first NR said that it seemed too convenient that the plane that hit the Pentagon managed to hit an area with no people. After it was pointed out that 184 people were killed in that area she changed the message that there was nobody “important” in that area. Several posters have found that to be fairly offensive on several levels. My main issue is people who say “I have doubts” but then don’t actually explain where the accounts diverge. The implication is that there’s little in the official account that can be taken as reality. Without saying what you have doubts about it’s easy to leap to some unfortunate conclusions. It’s akin to someone saying they have doubts about the Holocaust; without being clear exactly what you are questioning it’s very easy to lump you into the Holocaust deniers. It’s not fair, but it is a likely conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/117 "2008-03-30T17:28:44Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] Then your post is pretty much irrelevant, isn’t it? [/QUOTE] No, now that I’m a few pages in I still don’t see why you would have such anger at someone for politely having doubts about the event, or any event that may never be definitvely proven one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/118 "2008-03-30T17:31:45Z")
And I took that line to mean the 184 weren’t “important” to any head US official, which they probably weren’t, like the thousands who die in Iraq aren’t important to Dubya. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/119 "2008-03-30T17:34:24Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] No, now that I’m a few pages in I still don’t see why you would have such anger at someone for politely having doubts about the event, or any event that may never be definitvely proven one way or another. [/QUOTE] It’s not just having doubts. It’s believing that our government may have been involved, without offering any scenario at all that would accommodate that belief. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096/120 "2008-03-30T17:43:07Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] It’s not just having doubts. It’s believing that our government may have been involved, without offering any scenario at all that would accommodate that belief. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but a belief like that is something you can have becasue of “proof”, or just because that’s your opinion. I have no proof that UFO’s exist, have no proof the US govt. knows they do but suppresses that info, but it is my belief that they do- I have no basis for this, it may be irrational and laughed at by most, but I don’t think anybody would start a thread like this over it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nightrabbit-when-did-you-realize-vis-a-vis-other-kids-that-you-are-a-piece-of-shit/443096.md?page=7)