# Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024 (Not Trump please) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953 "2023-02-17T17:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/221 "2024-01-05T12:53:04Z")
Apparently, Trump’s people see her as the new threat, and they’ve decided to go after her. I’ll be curious to see how she responds, even though criticizing him is probably too little too late at this stage. She’s really in a can’t-win situation (can’t win without pushing back, but that will lose her valuable MAGA votes), and somehow I don’t see her accepting 2nd place in the same way Vivek would were he chosen. > **['The only thing left to do': Trump campaign turns its fire on Nikki Haley to...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-campaign-turns-fire-nikki-haley-blunt-rise-second-place-rcna132290)** > > Trump’s allies now see Haley — not Ron DeSantis — as the new person in second place. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/222 "2024-01-05T13:13:34Z")
Though I don’t thirst after her biers even she wouldn’t drink anything Trump pours out. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/223 "2024-01-05T19:45:50Z")
[https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4391514-haley-dogged-by-civil-war-controversy-i-had-black-friends-growing-up/](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4391514-haley-dogged-by-civil-war-controversy-i-had-black-friends-growing-up/) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/224 "2024-01-05T20:07:04Z")
Oh boy, the text of the link says it all! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/225 "2024-01-05T20:20:25Z")
Yeah, what a dunce. And isn’t ironic that Haley is taking so much shit for this (as she absolutely should) while Trump says unhinged shit every day and the GOP and media just yawn? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/226 "2024-01-05T20:30:50Z")
An article I was reading on Talking Points Memo this morning mentioned a poll showing her only three or four points behind Trump in NH. (Not going to bother posting a link to the article because that’s not what it was about - it was more of an op-ed about why it doesn’t matter and Trump is going to steamroll over her anyway on the way to the nomination.) But yeah I can see Trump freaking out that anyone is polling _anywhere_ close to him. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/227 "2024-01-06T21:16:13Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > while Trump says unhinged shit every day and the GOP and media just yawn? Because Trump saying unhinged shit is a dog bites man story – nothing new to see here, move along, move along. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/228 "2024-01-07T02:17:48Z")
You are 100% correct, but it shouldn’t be that way. Now would be the time for the media to step back and say, “Hey, we’ve been going light on this asshole for the past few years, but, actually, talking like this is NOT acceptable!” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/229 "2024-01-07T14:46:43Z")
How well did “OMG look at the insane thing Trump said NOW” coverage work towards alerting people to the danger in 2016? “Conventional wisdom” is that it only gave him free publicity. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/230 "2024-01-07T16:18:37Z")
Nikki is blowing a great opportunity. She’s not directly challenging Trump and the unstable things he did in office. I’m definitely disappointed at her fence-sitting. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/231 "2024-01-07T16:23:02Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > She’s not directly challenging Trump and the unstable things he did in office. As already noted in this thread (and in the ~25,000\* Trump threads on this board over the last eight years), those “unstable things” that Trump says and does are either (a) not believed by his supporters to be true (i.e., “the lamestream media makes that stuff up!”), or (b) are seen as a positive, and not unstable at all. To win the nomination, Haley (or any GOP candidate) would somehow need to win over large numbers of GOP voters who adore Trump. Challenging or attacking Trump by turning his own words and actions against him is unlikely to appeal to those voters. Given that Trump is extremely aggressively attempting to return to office, and that he has no qualms about going after anyone whom he sees as a threat to that goal, I simply have a hard time seeing how _any_ GOP challenger has an actual path to the nomination, barring Trump being legally barred from the office, or him suffering a medical crisis. \*- A dramatically large number for humor purposes, but hell, there’ve been a lot of Trump threads here. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/232 "2024-01-07T17:56:25Z")
I almost entirely agree with you but she can win over whatever is left of the center or moderate republicans who want anyone other than Trump. There are probably fewer of them than the crazies ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/233 "2024-01-07T17:58:57Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > whatever is left of the center or moderate republicans who want anyone other than Trump. There are probably fewer of them than the crazies This is the problem. Sure, she could win over the non-MAGAt GOP vote, and conservative-leaning independents (and that seems to be the approach that Christie is taking). It’s likely that there’s simply not enough of those left, compared to the Trump fanatics, to give an actual path to winning the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/234 "2024-01-07T18:15:20Z")
It’s long past the time when folks shouldn’t need to be reminded that it ain’t the party of your ~~grandfather~~ ~~father~~ older brother and it hasn’t been for a while. It’s gone from ‘the Party of Lincoln’ to ‘the party of Newt’ to ‘the Trumpublican Party’. And there doesn’t seem to be very much desire to change any of that. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/235 "2024-01-07T18:27:15Z")
Yeah, the Republicans in my circle have gone from “DeSantis and Haley are sane alternatives to Trump” to “They are MSM darlings/RINOs being promoted to damage Trump” in the last year. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/236 "2024-01-07T19:40:21Z")
Very discouraging. It really is far more a personality cult than a healthy political party these days. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/237 "2024-01-07T19:50:38Z")
These days? :cough: Ronaldus Magnus (of the Family Reagan, of course) :cough: And you can throw FDR and JFK in there too. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/238 "2024-01-08T18:26:01Z")
This goes _'way_ beyond anything any previous POTUS had. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/239 "2024-01-08T20:24:00Z")
[Trump finally get’s something right](https://twitter.com/sunraysunray/status/1743992587269054694?t=UYuNfbQGOObUf1WV6NLSHg) ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/240 "2024-01-08T21:32:42Z")
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