# Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024 (Not Trump please) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953 "2023-02-17T17:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/381 "2024-01-20T15:18:25Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > They showed Haley saying the same canned line word for word in about half a dozen settings. When you are using such a carefully curated line as a balance bar, the slightest deviation will send you falling off the tightrope. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/382 "2024-01-20T15:27:49Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > One more sorry and we have another hijack. Careful, folks, this could avalanche. Um, sorry about that, I participated in the hijack too. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/383 "2024-01-20T15:52:32Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > When you are using such a carefully curated line as a balance bar, the slightest deviation will send you falling off the tightrope. Reciting the same line over and over worked out so well for Marco Rubio in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/384 "2024-01-20T16:17:11Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Reciting the same line over and over worked out so well for Marco Rubio in 2016. Well, it’s really bad when you do it in response to someone saying that you do it… ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/385 "2024-01-20T16:27:13Z")
> I’m Marco Rubio and I can remember my lines.   ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/386 "2024-01-20T21:07:19Z")
> **[Nikki Haley questions whether Trump is ‘mentally fit’ after he confuses her...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/nikki-haley-trump-mentally-fit-nancy-pelosi-rcna134887)** > > Haley told supporters in New Hampshire that “we can’t have someone else that we question whether they’re mentally fit to do this.” MANCHESTER, N.H. — N_ikki Haley questioned whether Donald Trump is mentally able to serve as president after he [mixed](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-confuses-nikki-haley-pelosi-talking-jan-6-rcna134863)[her](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-confuses-nikki-haley-pelosi-talking-jan-6-rcna134863)[up](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-confuses-nikki-haley-pelosi-talking-jan-6-rcna134863) with Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., at a Friday-night rally._ _Addressing supporters in Keene, New Hampshire, Saturday, Haley called out Trump’s remarks while arguing that the [presidential contest](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/live-blog/election-2024-live-updates-rcna134579) should not be a showdown between two men near or above 80 years old._ _“We see that [President Joe] Biden has changed so much in two years,” Haley said. “But last night, Trump is at a rally and he’s going on and on mentioning me multiple times as to why I didn’t take security during the Capitol riots. Why didn’t I handle Jan. 6 better? I wasn’t even in D.C. on Jan. 6. I wasn’t in office then.”_ ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/387 "2024-01-21T20:24:21Z")
DeSantis is out, and maybe Don’s VP > **[Ron DeSantis ends presidential campaign before New Hampshire primary](https://www.yahoo.com/gma/ron-desantis-ends-presidential-campaign-200100956.html)** > > Ron DeSantis is ending his 2024 Republican presidential campaign after failing to overtake Trump in polling or in the early vote ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/388 "2024-01-21T21:12:01Z")
Now that the field has narrowed down to just trump and Haley, we might want a thread dedicated to the 2024 Republican primary to consolidate all of the race news. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/389 "2024-01-21T21:37:36Z")
Good idea ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/390 "2024-01-21T22:18:26Z")
Yes, it is time. Do you mean “news” as in a MPSIMS breaking news thread and the accompanying rules, or do you mean news _and_ learned SDMB commentary as in a P&E thread? Whichever, since it’s your idea I propose you kick it off and cite it in this thread and the soon to be moribund DeSantis thread(s) as a wrap-up ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/391 "2024-01-21T22:29:42Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Now that the field has narrowed down to just trump and Haley, we might want a thread dedicated to the 2024 Republican primary to consolidate all of the race news. We might want to wait until after Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary. If Haley gets trounced in that one, the Republican primary campaign will be over. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/392 "2024-01-22T00:08:17Z")
I believe she will drop out Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/393 "2024-01-22T00:17:41Z")
Yes, let’s have a new primary thread if Haley doesn’t drop out. And… I think she won’t! Why? The reason is simple: she will be hoping that he is dead / incapacitated / incarcerated by the time the convention rolls around and she can pick up the pieces. She’s now the only one left who can credibly do so. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/394 "2024-01-22T00:18:31Z")
It is obvious, with almost no primary election results in, that Trump will be the Republican candidate. I didn’t do it! It is not my fault! But that is what is going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/395 "2024-01-22T00:23:37Z")
Primaries not mattering this year may be an incentive for parties to re-consider how they go about selecting their candidates. But I haven’t fully fleshed out my thinking on this yet. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/396 "2024-01-22T00:24:02Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Why? The reason is simple: she will be hoping that he is dead / incapacitated / incarcerated by the time the convention rolls around and she can pick up the pieces. I think a lot will come down to whether she can convince enough donors (particularly enough big-money donors) to continue to support her campaign. If she runs out of money, she’ll drop out, even if she would rather continue. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/397 "2024-01-22T01:22:48Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > We might want to wait until after Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary. If Haley gets trounced in that one, the Republican primary campaign will be over. That’s a good idea. I disagree that she’ll drop out voluntarily, though she might if she runs out of money. Chances of trump being disqualified by the Supreme Court, chances of guilty verdicts before the nomination, chances he’ll drop dead from a buildup of cheeseburgers and spite… if she’s the last man standing she’ll win by default at that point, no? It would be folly to concede when there are multiple avenues to become the runner up who serves when the winner is disqualified. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/398 "2024-01-22T01:37:24Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > if she’s the last man standing she’ll win by default at that point, no? Remember, the other candidates haven’t quit, they’ve merely “suspended” their campaigns. (If they actually quit, they have to liquidate their campaign funds.) If by whatever means Trump should be removed from the race, then everyone else can just unsuspend themselves and start over again. Which means DeSantis would be in the lead with 9 delegates from Iowa to Haley’s 8 and Ramaswamy’s 3. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/399 "2024-01-22T01:59:23Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Remember, the other candidates haven’t quit, they’ve merely “suspended” their campaigns. (If they actually quit, they have to liquidate their campaign funds.) If by whatever means Trump should be removed from the race, then everyone else can just unsuspend themselves and start over again. Good point! I don’t think there will be any financial reason for her to drop out/suspend. She is already on all the primary ballots and need only do the bare minimum. She is also the closet thing to an anti-Trump candidate among the field and will, presumably, do better the worse Trump does, whereas Ron and Vivek will not, presumably, have that advantage. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/400 "2024-01-22T01:59:38Z")
I think it would go to the party national meeting if Trump disappeared. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953.md?page=21)