# Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024 (Not Trump please)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 17, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953 "2023-02-17T17:04:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/441 "2024-01-24T02:26:04Z")

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For anybody interested, Trump is giving his victory speech on CNN right now. Likely on other media as well.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/442 "2024-01-24T02:34:21Z")

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And he is not exactly gracious in victory.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/443 "2024-01-24T02:35:43Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> She is going to take off the gloves (she already has a bit, albeit a bit late) and start bare-knuckle pounding on Trump. Lemme tell ya, there are plenty of spots to attack!

When Trump has a senior moment, she will mention it. But whatever focus group input now dictates her messaging is unlikely to change much because she got 46 percent, or whatever the final result, in New Hampshire.

The lane for Republicans who value a maximum of knuckle pounding is already occupied by DJT.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/444 "2024-01-24T02:35:58Z")

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No, not gracious at all. One of the talking heads on CNN just now said that he was furious. Partly because Haley is still in the race, and plans to remain in the race, but also because she did so well. Yes, he won, but he didn’t expect her to do as well as she did.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/445 "2024-01-24T02:50:07Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> For anybody interested, Trump is giving his victory speech on CNN right now. Likely on other media as well.

So much anger, so many lies, so much name calling. He called out Sununu several times and there was booing- not sue for trump or the Gov.

And Haley is just behind trump, that does not look good for him.ted.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/446 "2024-01-24T05:39:40Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Joe Biden is doing much better despite the disadvantage of being a write-in.

I apologize if this has already been mentioned but apparently a lot of people have been writing in “ceasefire”.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/447 "2024-01-24T06:12:16Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I apologize if this has already been mentioned but apparently a lot of people have been writing in “ceasefire”.

Is the USA in a war, where we can call a ceasefire? I mean, yeah we are shooting at some Hohni rebels, but??

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/448 "2024-01-24T06:13:49Z")

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They are referring to Gaza

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/449 "2024-01-24T06:16:12Z")

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President Biden is the President of the USA, not the PM of Israel. He has no power to declare a ceasefire.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/450 "2024-01-24T06:28:24Z")

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Thanks for the civics lesson. Tell them, not me. That’s why they are doing it.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/451 "2024-01-24T09:37:56Z")

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Nikki should probably drop out now. She’s going to burn a lot of money on a lost cause. Winning New Hampshire was likely her only shot.

However… we live in very volatile times. Nikki may be staying in just to be last person standing if Trump dtops out for any reason. He is 78, under indictment, etc.

BUt if Trump goes the distance, Haley can’t win. And he’ll be merciless against her for the next while. What if she jumps ship, and runs on an independent ticket? That would not be god news for Republicans or Democrats. Kennedy/Haley? Haley/Phillips?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/452 "2024-01-24T11:10:45Z")

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All of you haters saying that Nikki Haley should drop out haven’t been inspired by the “Nikki Haley Anthem.” If I have to know about it, I’m inflicting it on you, too.

> **[Someone wrote a song about Nikki Haley, and it is bad. Very bad](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/1/22/2218863/-Someone-wrote-a-song-about-Nikki-Haley-and-it-is-bad-Very-bad)**
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> A new track just dropped over the weekend! With the New Hampshire Republican primary upon us, fans of Nikki Haley released a new song titled the “Nikki Haley Anthem.” The “anthem” is written and performed by musician and songwriter Larry Dvoskin...

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/453 "2024-01-24T13:21:00Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Nikki should probably drop out now. She’s going to burn a lot of money on a lost cause.

It’s not _her_ money, is it?

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> However… we live in very volatile times. Nikki may be staying in just to be last person standing if Trump dtops out for any reason. He is 78, under indictment, etc.
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> BUt if Trump goes the distance, Haley can’t win. And he’ll be merciless against her for the next while.

So long as the money is coming in, what does she have to lose? If Trump drops out, she’s the frontrunner; if not, she’s the frontrunner for 2028.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/454 "2024-01-24T13:29:50Z")

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And she’s not gonna be VP or a Cabinet seat, so why not hover around and snipe away at him, hoping for the “hamburger from Heaven”?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/455 "2024-01-24T13:40:43Z")

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Why did she keep the gloves on for so long? She and DeSantis made the same mistake of walking on eggshells to avoid offending the MAGA base. If either of them had actually run against the 900 pound orange gorilla, they might have had a chance. She can attack now, but it’s going to be far too little and far too late.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/456 "2024-01-24T13:57:37Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> What if she jumps ship, and runs on an independent ticket?

There’s no way she would ever do that.

She’ll endorse Trump in the end, just like everyone else

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/457 "2024-01-24T14:02:19Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> She’ll endorse Trump in the end, just like everyone else

Yes, but if she hangs in the fight, we’ll have a few months of her disparaging Trump for a lot of the same reasons we disparage him - _and it will be in venues that other Republicans actually listen to_.

That just might get the idea that Trump is bad through to a few of them.

So, I say, fight on Haley!

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/458 "2024-01-24T14:13:37Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> So long as the money is coming in, what does she have to lose? If Trump drops out, she’s the frontrunner; if not, she’s the frontrunner for 2028.

I don’t think this is the case. The longer she stays in the race, the more she antagonizes Trump and his supporters. Trump’s increasingly turning his fire on her. If he were to die or be disqualified, MAGA world would be outraged at the thought that Nikki Haley would be the one to pick up his legacy.

By the end of March, the majority of delegates will be awarded and they’ll be overwhelmingly for Trump. These delegates to the Republican National Convention will be state and national elected officials, state and local party leaders, etc. Even if they wanted to support Haley, they won’t because it would outrage the grass roots who ultimately will decide their own fates.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/459 "2024-01-24T14:14:48Z")

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Haley should take a page from the Trump playbook and call him “Crybaby Donald”, “Loser Donald”, “Senile Donald” etc at every opportunity. Hit him where it really hurts - his fragile ego.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/460 "2024-01-24T14:52:36Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> She and DeSantis made the same mistake of walking on eggshells to avoid offending the MAGA base.

Analogous to the mistake of the 2016 field, betting on him not making it all rhe way — back then the expectation that he would drop out sooner rather than later; this time around the hope of a prosecutor-ex-machina solution coming “from above” or for sane, sensible voters disgusted by the person to actually bother showing up to the caucus/primary — and then harvest the orphaned MAGA vote.

But let’s face it, they all care too much about being in the good graces of whoever does win, even if it means bowing to the deplorable.

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