# Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024 (Not Trump please) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953 "2023-02-17T17:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/621 "2024-02-06T04:16:49Z")
The Equal Time Rule is still in effect…but it contains holes big enough to drive a Presidential motorcade through: [Equal-time rule - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule). ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/622 "2024-02-06T08:38:12Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > I’m sure they’ve offered an invitation to Trump I doubt it. I don’t think Donald and Lorne are friends any more. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/623 "2024-02-06T10:58:52Z")
Who said anything about friends? Having an infamous figure like Trump on your show would presumably drive up ratings, though I wonder how many cast member would refuse to show. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/624 "2024-02-06T11:10:45Z")
This isn’t about ratings, it’s about ego - if Lorne Michaels doesn’t like someone, that person won’t be on his show. Period. SNL is his fiefdom and he is its absolute ruler, and if the network has a problem they can take a long walk off the top of 30 Rock. At this point, it’s not like he needs the extra money. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/625 "2024-02-06T11:14:02Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > At this point, it’s not like he needs the extra money. People who have a lot of money rarely know when to stop scrambling after it, but I take your point. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/626 "2024-02-06T12:33:28Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > but since he no longer needs free publicity, nor enjoys SNL, he won’t take them up on it. Plus, while he’d be hilarious, it wouldn’t be because he actually delivered any funny scripted lines. It would be because of the absolute train wreck Trump “trying to be funny” would become. Could you imagine Trump trying to stay on script in his current addled state? Could you imagine the cast trying to keep up with doing improv around whatever weird shit just come out of his mouth? ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/627 "2024-02-06T12:57:30Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > I’m sure they’ve offered an invitation to Trump (in fact, because the Equal Time provision is still in effect, I believe they have to) but since he no longer needs free publicity, nor enjoys SNL, he won’t take them up on it. Didn’t Trump host SNL early in his 2016 campaign? I seem to remember complaining about the “equal time” thing back then, and was told it didn’t apply to SNL for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/628 "2024-02-06T14:14:59Z")
> [@digs](#): > > My first reaction was “Why are they giving ONE candidate a free platform like this?” > But my second thought was “Oooh, this’ll really stick in Donald’s craw. You rock, 30 Rock…” The more he rants about the “failing _New York Times_” and how SNL has gone down the tubes, Trump just betrays how much these and other New York institutions mean to him. He can camp out in Mar a Lago and play Floridian, but he has always measured himself by how he’s treated by New York society and media. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/629 "2024-02-06T15:50:36Z")
Moderating: > [@Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024/979953/608): > > Moderating: And yet again, Trump is being discussed in a non-Trump thread. To the extent his actions impact Nikki Haley’s campaign, it’s fair to discuss him. Beyond that, you’re hijacking the thread. Please keep this in mind in making posts in this thread. Thanks. > [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > I’m sure they’ve offered an invitation to Trump (in fact, because the Equal Time provision is still in effect, I believe they have to) but since he no longer needs free publicity, nor enjoys SNL, he won’t take them up on it. > [@Alessan](#): > > I doubt it. I don’t think Donald and Lorne are friends any more. > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Who said anything about friends? Having an infamous figure like Trump on your show would presumably drive up ratings, though I wonder how many cast member would refuse to show. > [@Alessan](#): > > This isn’t about ratings, it’s about ego - if Lorne Michaels doesn’t like someone, that person won’t be on his show. Period. SNL is his fiefdom and he is its absolute ruler, and if the network has a problem they can take a long walk off the top of 30 Rock. At this point, it’s not like he needs the extra money. > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > People who have a lot of money rarely know when to stop scrambling after it, but I take your point. > [@Horatius](#): > > Plus, while he’d be hilarious, it wouldn’t be because he actually delivered any funny scripted lines. It would be because of the absolute train wreck Trump “trying to be funny” would become. Could you imagine Trump trying to stay on script in his current addled state? Could you imagine the cast trying to keep up with doing improv around whatever weird shit just come out of his mouth? > [@Shoeless](#): > > Didn’t Trump host SNL early in his 2016 campaign? I seem to remember complaining about the “equal time” thing back then, and was told it didn’t apply to SNL for some reason. > [@flurb](#): > > The more he rants about the “failing _New York Times_” and how SNL has gone down the tubes, Trump just betrays how much these and other New York institutions mean to him. He can camp out in Mar a Lago and play Floridian, but he has always measured himself by how he’s treated by New York society and media. All of you quoted blew past the mod note linked to above. Please remove your discussions about Trump to a Trump thread. This thread is about Nikki Haley. There will be no more mod notes in this thread about hijacks. I will issue warnings. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/630 "2024-02-06T16:23:36Z")
Mea culpa. Message received. Nikki Haley wants a Secret Service detail. Surprised it’s taken her this long to ask. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/631 "2024-02-06T19:00:52Z")
Maybe she wasn’t getting threats till she did well enough in the primaries and started going after you know who. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/632 "2024-02-06T20:07:13Z")
Leopards, faces, you know the drill. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/633 "2024-02-06T20:07:33Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > Hell, she’d probably do _Dancing with the Stars_ if they’d have her. > > I could see her following Sarah Palin and Rudy Giuliani on _Masked Singer_. That could work. She should be dressed in a \_\_\_\_\_\_\_ \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ suit. Base it on the “------Baby” balloon. Then walk out and whine and moan about the 2020 election–maybe to the tune of _I Did it My Way._ (It would certainly make headlines. But of course Haley will never stick it to the MAGA folks that blatantly. She still hopes to win their votes.) ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/634 "2024-02-07T05:11:59Z")
In the Nevada primary, Haley finished a distant second to “none of the above.” It was a weird situation, as Trump wasn’t on the ballot and Nevada Republicans will actually award their delegates in a caucus on Thursday. But no politician wants to see that headline. > **[Nikki Haley loses to 'none of these candidates' in the Nevada GOP primary](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/haley-loses-nevada-republican-primary-without-trump-rcna137367)** > > NBC News projects that more voters chose not to pick a candidate at all than back Haley. Trump was not on the ballot, since he's participating in Thursday's caucus instead. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/635 "2024-02-07T11:43:34Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Haley finished a distant second to “none of the above.” It was a weird situation, as Trump wasn’t on the ballot and Nevada Republicans will actually award their delegates in a caucus on Thursday. But no politician wants to see that headline. **NIKKI HALEY: SECOND TO NONE!** ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/636 "2024-02-07T12:00:57Z")
Just to note: I understand the intent of the title update, but the use of the phrase “Not Trump please” made me laugh. On Haley: the RNC who are running low on cash both nationally and locally would very much like Haley to drop out so they can focus on fundraising and spending toward the general election. I doubt she will heed this request unless coerced by carrot and/or stick, at least not before the SC primary. > **[Republican National Committee wants Nikki Haley to drop out to boost funds](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/07/rnc-nikki-haley-drop-out-funds)** > > Exclusive: RNC reported $8m in cash to spend, less than half of what it had in 2016, as it starts preparing for the 2024 election ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/637 "2024-02-07T19:02:42Z")
You’d think the party of “What’s in it for _meeee?_” would understand the need for a bribe, here. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/638 "2024-02-07T21:09:58Z")
The RNC would want _her_ to bribe _them_ to let her stay in the race. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/639 "2024-02-07T22:28:40Z")
Nikki Haley: Nobody Can Beat Her ! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/640 "2024-02-07T23:35:29Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > You’d think the party of “What’s in it for _meeee?_” would understand the need for a bribe, here. I’m sure they understand bribery. I’m guessing that the giganto-donors who are supporting Haley have made it clear to the RNC that they are all-in on defeating Trump. Bribing Haley to drop out won’t make those donors suddenly believe that a Trump presidency is in their interest. On the contrary, they know that since he knows they’re working against him, he will delight in revenging himself on them if he gets the power. They can’t go back to him. Their dice are cast. Haley isn’t the RNC’s problem—the donors are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953.md?page=33)