# Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024 (Not Trump please)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 17, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953 "2023-02-17T17:04:30Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/641 "2024-02-08T02:22:23Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> **NIKKI HALEY: SECOND TO NONE!**

I find it interesting that she got 30% in a contest she wasn’t interested in competing in. Didn’t she loudly dismiss Nevada as being too rigged in Trump’s favor to be worth bothering with? And she still got 30% after that? Certainly not a win by any measure but not entirely a loss either.

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/642 "2024-02-08T02:32:14Z")

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Objectively I agree with you on that, but the media will spin it as a loss. The media is, just as it was in 2016, complicit in the rise and success of Trumpism. They keep thinking something else will stop him, yet continue to do everything they can to enable him - all in the name of clicks/ads/subscriptions. If he wins in 2024, they’re in for a real “I never thought the leopard would eat MY face” moment.

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/643 "2024-02-08T02:39:25Z")

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My understanding is that Haley isn’t competing in the Nevada _caucus_ because it’s rigged for Trump, but she voluntarily registered for the ballot for the Nevada primary.

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/644 "2024-02-08T02:46:26Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> My first reaction was “Why are they giving ONE candidate a free platform like this?”

My understanding is that having candidates show up on SNL is fairly common. Off the top of my head, I remember cameos by Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, Barrack Obama, John McCain and so on. I can’t remember if Joe Biden went on or not.

And here’s an article from 2015 mentioning several more candidates.

> **[See 17 hilarious 'SNL' appearances from presidential candidates](https://www.today.com/popculture/star-spangled-laughter-17-presidential-candidates-who-appeared-snl-t54106)**
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> From Gerald Ford to Barack Obama, many presidential hopefuls have campaigned for laughs and votes on the iconic late-night comedy series.

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/645 "2024-02-08T14:55:41Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Off the top of my head, I remember cameos by Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, Barrack Obama, John McCain and so on.

I remember Bob Dole coming on in a sketch where Norm McDonald was playing Bob Dole.

Ah, here’s a photo.

[![](https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/54db919373b710d476cfb497/master/w_320%2Cc_limit/saturday-night-live-anniversary-ss17.png) ](https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/54db919373b710d476cfb497/master/w_320%2Cc_limit/saturday-night-live-anniversary-ss17.png)

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/646 "2024-02-08T15:38:16Z")

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I remember an episode in the late 80s when they had announced that the host would be Paul Simon. After the cold open, out walk both Paul Simon (the singer) and Paul Simon (Senator from Illinois seeking the Democratic nomination for President) arguing over which one of them is supposed to be the host.

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/647 "2024-02-08T15:51:28Z")

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Jesse Jackson did a parody of his campaign in the 80s but it was after he dropped out as I recall.

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/648 "2024-02-08T15:58:33Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And here’s an article from 2015 mentioning several more candidates.

One they didn’t mention: Mike Huckabee, at the point when people were noting that it’s time for him to drop out because it’s now a mathematical impossibility for him to get the nomination. You know, even if he won all of the remaining delegates. _“Seth, that was an excellent explanation, but, uh, I’m afraid that you overlooked the all-important SUPERDELEGATES. Don’t forget about them!_”

Seth informs him that, no, you’re thinking of the Democrats; the Republicans don’t have those. As this sinks in, Huckabee awkwardly comes to grips with it, and eventually resigns himself to assuring the American people that Mike Huckabee does not overstay his welcome; when it’s time for him to go, he’ll of course exit with class and grace.

Seth: _“Well, that is really good to know. We appreciate your stopping by, Governor. Governor Mike Huckabee, everyone!”_

…and Huckabee then stays put, not getting the increasingly obvious hints that it’s time for him to leave…

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/649 "2024-02-10T05:06:07Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> In the Nevada primary

What a fucking joke this was!

> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Didn’t she loudly dismiss Nevada as being too rigged in Trump’s favor to be worth bothering with? And she still got 30% after that?

I thought 30% was a decent showing. At least a subtle message. However, She got 30% of nothing. “None of these Candidates” was a de-facto vote for Orangatan, since he wasn’t on the ballot. MAGAssholes picked that. But it didn’t matter. No delegates awarded either way from that vote. The “caucus” was a farce. The local news reported “Huge Turnouts!” (Yuge?)

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/650 "2024-02-14T17:58:12Z")

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Haley says that Trump and Biden are both diminished and that we need someone new. She also says that she pushed back on Trump when bad things happened, which I didn’t hear about, and you’d think would have made the news given how leaky his White House seemed to be then. She should have come out this strongly before now. Perhaps it would have helped. She does make a good point about RNC resources-Trump is certainly a bigger drain.

> **[Nikki Haley says Trump has become 'diminished' and 'unhinged' since 2016](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/nikki-haley-diminished-unhinged-trump-changed-backed-rcna138667)**
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> In an interview with NBC News' Craig Melvin, Haley explained away her past support for Trump while knocking his recent conduct and his age.

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/651 "2024-02-19T23:39:35Z")

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Codespeak for “I’m withdrawing and endorsing Trump”, probably:

> <https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1759717994924540037?t=BpHlT0igKfyI9Dc3XFtUgw&s=19>

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/652 "2024-02-19T23:57:32Z")

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How often per day do you think Haley asks her staff, “When is the Supreme Court ruling being released?”

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/653 "2024-02-20T01:09:23Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Codespeak for “I’m withdrawing and endorsing Trump”, probably:

“I"ve loved Trump for always and he’ll make the bestest President ever and I also love Putin.”

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/654 "2024-02-20T02:16:41Z")

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She might be dropping out, but I don’t think she’s going to endorse Trump. If she does, that will be an invertebrate having a spine surgically implanted, only to rip it out in front of a crowd (showering it in blood and cerebrospinal fluid) to demonstrate just how implacably spinless it is!

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/655 "2024-02-20T02:24:40Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> She might be dropping out, but I don’t think she’s going to endorse Trump.

My prediction is that she’ll suspend her campaign and wait to see if he gets convicted or chokes on a hamberder or something.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/656 "2024-02-20T03:22:51Z")

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If Trump does shuffle off, I doubt that her 17 out of 2,429 total delegates is going to do her much good.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/657 "2024-02-20T07:46:19Z")

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Maybe she just wants to logically spell out the pitfalls of nominating a candidate who suddenly finds himself in hock for nearly half a billion dollars. Sadly, her audience aren’t really consumers of logic.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/658 "2024-02-20T08:10:46Z")

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Well, at least she has said she will speak tomorrow. Not like a certain person who says that he will speak on a topic “in two weeks.”

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Maybe she just wants to logically spell out the pitfalls of nominating a candidate who suddenly finds himself in hock for nearly half a billion dollars.

That’s what I’m hoping for. Well, that and stating her determination to stay in the fight. I don’t think that she’s changing many minds, but she may be getting some RINOs to think twice, which I’m sure is among her goals. Plus, every dollar that is donated to her campaign is a dollar that is not going to another campaign.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/659 "2024-02-20T18:34:38Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Aeschines](#):
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> > She might be dropping out, but I don’t think she’s going to endorse Trump.
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> My prediction is that she’ll suspend her campaign and wait to see if he gets convicted or chokes on a hamberder or something .

Haley is staying in the race:

[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/we-dont-anoint-kings-nikki-haley-pledges-continue-campaign-defying-trump-2024-02-20/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/we-dont-anoint-kings-nikki-haley-pledges-continue-campaign-defying-trump-2024-02-20/)

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/660 "2024-02-20T19:02:22Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> Haley is staying in the race:

Eh, well - good on her. And I say not just because it offers a continued slight resistance to Trump’s coronation train. And not because I like her shitty politics or don’t think that in part she’s being in part opportunistic, hoping for Trump to drop out along the way for any of a few plausible reasons.

But at least she has the fortitude not to be toady to a bully (yet).

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