# Nikki Haley announces US presidential run for 2024 (Not Trump please) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 17, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953 "2023-02-17T17:04:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/661 "2024-02-20T19:18:53Z")
Could she be announcing a running mate? Yes, it’s premature and likely pointless, but could get her plenty of press ahead of the Saturday South Carolina primary, especially if it’s a popular figure. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/662 "2024-02-20T19:20:34Z")
I’d be surprised if she’s here next week. She’s going to get buried in her own state this weekend. Money will dry up and without money she’ll be “suspending” her campaign just like the others. I don’t think it would have made any difference if she had gone negative earlier, the party would have fallen in line behind her opponent no matter what she did. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/663 "2024-02-21T18:53:14Z")
I suspect you’re right. And even if Trump were to break his neck in a pair of his fugly gold sneakers tomorrow, the GOP is almost certainly not going to turn to Nikki to be the nominee. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/664 "2024-02-21T19:05:02Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Could she be announcing a running mate? Yes, it’s premature and likely pointless, but could get her plenty of press ahead of the Saturday South Carolina primary, especially if it’s a popular figure. I’d agree that it’s pointless, but it’s not _more_ premature than Trump proposing a debate against Biden. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/665 "2024-02-21T20:34:25Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > The latest polling of Republicans nationally is > Trump - 72.4% and rising sharply > Haley- 17.7% > > South Carolina > Trump - 62.0% > Haley - 31.4% > > She has no chance Three weeks later South Carolina Trump - 63.5% Haley - 33.5% ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/666 "2024-02-21T20:49:30Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > South Carolina > Trump - 63.5% > Haley - 33.5% Is it weird I find those strangely comforting numbers? I mean the old me, say circa mid-2020 in the immediate wake of the failed soft coup, might have been appalled that Trump was such a consensus and overwhelming favorite among GOP primary voters. Ever-more-cynical 2024 me finds it cheering that maybe 1/3 of primary voters, who lean towards the more highly motivated, are interested in someone else. Sure Trump will beat Haley and crushingly so. Sure, the vast, vast majority of those primary voters will tack back to the good ship Trump for the general. But it does give me hope that there are enough disenchanted Republican voters to maybe sit out a Trump general election, even if they can’t bring themselves to vote for those perfidious Democrats. Perhaps at least enough to overcome the mildly anti-Biden Democratic Party voters that might be willing to cut off their noses to spite their faces for the sake of their principles and/or ennui. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/667 "2024-02-21T21:28:28Z")
Happy post 666 up there, you. Heard on satellite radio this morning: If Haley is shooting for a run in 2028, staying in these primaries will not hurt her. If she is shooting for a run in _2048_, when she will still be younger than the two current frontrunners, staying in won’t hurt her. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/668 "2024-02-21T21:29:08Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > And even if Trump were to break his neck in a pair of his fugly gold sneakers tomorrow, the GOP is almost certainly not going to turn to Nikki to be the nominee. If DJT is deceased or crippled beyond functioning in the job even to the MAGAts’ minimal standards, they’re gonna nominate _somebody_. If not Haley, who do you propose? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/669 "2024-02-21T21:40:20Z")
Who do I think they’d choose? DeSantis. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/670 "2024-02-21T22:09:39Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > If DJT is deceased or crippled beyond functioning in the job even to the MAGAts’ minimal standards, they’re gonna nominate _somebody_. If not Haley, who do you propose? If Trump dies freeing up his delegates, they can vote for anyone they want to. It doesn’t even have to be someone who was running for the nomination. My dark horse candidate: Greg Abbott. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/671 "2024-02-21T23:36:00Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > My dark horse candidate: Greg Abbott. No doubt the MAGA faithful love his open racism. I’m not so sure they’d be willing to forgive his being in a wheelchair. These days no President could get away with what FDR did (a largely-cooperative media that never showed his incapacity to walk). These people are not much on compassion for the differently-abled. ---
**Author:** ![anny\_m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@anny\_m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anny_m)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/672 "2024-02-22T02:47:51Z")
In case you’re thinking that Haley is a decent choice for POTUS, I’d like to point out that ahe agrees with the Alabama Supreme Court that embryos created in the IVF process [should be considered babies.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/21/nikki-haley-embryos-ivf-babies-interview) ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/673 "2024-02-22T07:01:44Z")
_New Adventures in the Life of an HVAC Technician_ What the fuck is this country coming to? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/674 "2024-02-22T17:11:22Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > And even if Trump were to break his neck in a pair of his fugly gold sneakers tomorrow, the GOP is almost certainly not going to turn to Nikki to be the nominee. > > If DJT is deceased or crippled beyond functioning in the job even to the MAGAts’ minimal standards, they’re gonna nominate _somebody_. If not Haley, who do you propose? She’s been too critical of Trump this race for them to turn to her, I think. However unlikely, I could see it being DeSantis, Abbott, Scott, Greene, Boebert, etc. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/675 "2024-02-22T17:18:44Z")
… and again winding up with Johnson because they can’t make up their minds. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/676 "2024-02-22T17:20:33Z")
In today’s wacky, grotesquely-dysfunctional, personality-cult-driven GOP, I wouldn’t put it past them! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/677 "2024-02-22T17:38:41Z")
> [@anny\_m](#): > > In case you’re thinking that Haley is a decent choice for POTUS, I’d like to point out that ahe agrees with the Alabama Supreme Court that embryos created in the IVF process [should be considered babies.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/21/nikki-haley-embryos-ivf-babies-interview) According to several reports, one of Haley’s own children is the result of fertility treatments. I have no doubt that Haley will say whatever the Christian nationalists want her to say on all topics relating to child-bearing. Even if she has to denounce her own past actions. But this particular topic may be a loser for the GOP. Outlawing fertility treatment will result in many fewer births, not in more births–a contradiction of what conservatives stand for. It will motivate voters to get to the polls and thereby keep Republicans out. > **[After Alabama court ruling, Nikki Haley agrees that 'embryos, to me, are babies'](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nikki-haley-agrees-alabama-court-ruling-embryos-people/story?id=107422810)** > > Nikki Haley said in a new interview that she agrees with an Alabama Supreme Court ruling that frozen embryos are considered children in the state ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/678 "2024-02-22T17:53:05Z")
The Roman Catholic Church is putatively “pro-life” and yet opposes IVF. No one ever said it had to make sense. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/679 "2024-02-22T18:05:50Z")
True enough. As long as the policy is guaranteed to harm ‘the right people,’ it’s golden, despite any logical inconsistencies. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953/680 "2024-02-22T18:06:17Z")
It does kind of make sense, though. Most IVF processes produce more embryos than are actually used, and so there’s the issue of what to do with those extras. Some people dispose of them, while others store them indefinitely. If you think those embryos are people, then both those options seem bad. Better to never create them in the first place. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-announces-us-presidential-run-for-2024-not-trump-please/979953.md?page=35)