# Nikki Haley for President-Trumps plan

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 24, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894 "2016-11-24T16:57:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/61 "2016-11-26T15:34:12Z")

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The point of diversity isn’t so you can get as many shades of people as possible it’s so you can get as many different viewpoints as possible from people from different backgrounds. Growing up as a first generation American to Indian parents is certainly a background you won’t find often among holders of high office in the United States and maybe an important one as more and more Indians immigrate to the USA.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/62 "2016-11-27T02:06:27Z")

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According to Mother Jones, she ticked off the box for white on her voter registration form inn 2001.

> **[Indian Nikki Haley Says She Is White](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/indian-nikki-haley-says-she-is-white/)**
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> For the children of immigrants, the road to acceptance in America can be a bumpy one. There will be pain. There will be embarrassment. There will be relentless, cruel accusations from your brethren that you are assimilating at the expense of your...

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/63 "2018-10-09T20:03:13Z")

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> [@rbroome](#):
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> Of course this is pure speculation, but I am trying to figure out the most surprising selection so far: Gov. Nikki Haley for UN Ambassador. In a field of old white men she sticks out…
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> How about this for a reason: Trump is planning to not run for re-election but instead support Sec. of State Haley in 2020.

Updating this thread Nikki Haley has now resigned as UN Ambassador so that sort of kills the OP’s suggestion:

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> President Donald Trump announced on Tuesday that US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley has resigned and will leave her post by the end of the year.  
> Sitting side-by-side in the Oval Office, Trump praised Haley as a “fantastic person” who has “done an incredible job” and said he would gladly welcome her back into his administration down the line.

[https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/nikki-haley-resignation/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/nikki-haley-resignation/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/64 "2018-10-09T20:36:41Z")

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He hates being president, and the GOP hates having him as president. But they are stuck with each other. The GOP gets Trump’s base to switch over to Haley in return for the GOP protecting Trump. It kinda makes sense.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/65 "2018-10-09T20:41:54Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Updating this thread Nikki Haley has now resigned as UN Ambassador so that sort of kills the OP’s suggestion:
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/nikki-haley-resignation/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/nikki-haley-resignation/index.html)

I thought the opposite. It ticks off one of the OP’s predictions.

> [@OP](#):
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> Take the job of Amb. to the UN for 2 years. Learn about national and international affairs and introduce herself to the rest of the world. After that training, Trump will offer her the Sec. of State position.

I doubt she’ll get Sec State but Trump did say she’s welcome back into the administration in some new capacity.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/66 "2018-10-09T20:50:04Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I thought the opposite. It ticks off one of the OP’s predictions.

I thought the same thing. What better way to stick-it to the whining libruls (and Hilary) than to position Republican Nikki Haley to be first female POTUS.

Maybe in 2020 they will shove Pence out of the picture “for health reasons” and place Haley on the ticket as VP, which would put her in a good spot for President next time around.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/67 "2018-10-09T21:37:28Z")

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The Telegraph ([paywalled article](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/09/nikki-haleys-graceful-exit-puts-course-biggest-prize-2024/)) says she’s looking at 2024, but 5-6 years is a long time to be out of the limelight.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/68 "2018-10-09T21:38:33Z")

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Being sitting Vice-President doesn’t automatically favour her to become Prez.

Only two incumbent Veeps have ever been elected, and both succeeded very popular presidents. (Van Buren after Jackson; Bush I after Reagan).

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/69 "2018-10-09T21:43:22Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> He hates being president, and the GOP hates having him as president. But they are stuck with each other. The GOP gets Trump’s base to switch over to Haley in return for the GOP protecting Trump. It kinda makes sense.

I’m starting to think he likes being President. And it’s possibly the only thing that’s going to keep him out of prison.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/70 "2018-10-09T22:19:07Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> Her family is from India.

> [@BigT](#):
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> Her parents being Indian has no bearing on whether she is white. If she looks white, she is white. That’s the entire fucking concept of race. It is entirely visually based. That’s the definition–it’s why being anti-ginger is still racism.

Agreed. I imagine if a national poll were conducted asking what race Haley was, a majority would say “white”.

> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> I could see the appointment meaning “Trump would like to do some deals in India”.

Specifically, “Trump would like to borrow money from Indian banks.” 😃

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> she frigging looks Indian to us mere mortals.

Wow. Have you ever actually _seen_ an Indian person? [This](https://goo.gl/images/C869gN) is what most closely resembles the “Indian” appearance most people recognize. [This](https://goo.gl/images/z48a5Q) is Nikki Haley.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/71 "2018-10-09T22:36:01Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Agreed. I imagine if a national poll were conducted asking what race Haley was, a majority would say “white”.
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> Specifically, “Trump would like to borrow money from Indian banks.” 😃  
> Wow. Have you ever actually _seen_ an Indian person? [This](https://goo.gl/images/C869gN) is what most closely resembles the “Indian” appearance most people recognize. [This](https://goo.gl/images/z48a5Q) is Nikki Haley.

Seriously, “wow”? Like she is totally not Indian looking (despite having two frigging Indian parents) that you are shocked? Have you ever met an Indian? They don’t all look like Apu, buddy.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/72 "2018-10-09T23:10:53Z")

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There are white Indians, just like there are white Africans and white Jamaicans. Nikki’s parents look Indian, but they aren’t particularly dark:

[![](https://marriedwiki.com/uploads/2017/10/nikki-haley-parents.jpg) ](https://marriedwiki.com/uploads/2017/10/nikki-haley-parents.jpg)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/73 "2018-10-09T23:31:44Z")

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I don’t know why, but I kinda think Nikki Haley is hot.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/74 "2018-10-09T23:45:05Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Wow. Have you ever actually _seen_ an Indian person? [This](https://goo.gl/images/C869gN) is what most closely resembles the “Indian” appearance most people recognize. [This](https://goo.gl/images/z48a5Q) is Nikki Haley.

You do know how big India is, don’t you? You do know that it’s called a sub-continent, don’t you? It’s over 3200 km from north to south. The Tamils of the south are as black as any African, and the Aryans of the north can be as white as any Europeans - and they likely have European blood too.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/75 "2018-10-10T00:20:56Z")

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I’m referring to what the majority in our society _recognize_ as Indian, not what constitutes a “real” Indian. In hindsight, I shouldn’t have included the first sentence of my previous post. It just confused my point.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/76 "2018-10-10T01:03:05Z")

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Well anyway, I don’t know if you noticed but this is a 2 year old argument started when Amateur Barbarian referred to her as just another white lady.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/77 "2018-10-10T03:56:27Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I don’t know why, but I kinda think Nikki Haley is hot.

There is no need for this locker room talk in this thread. Knock it off.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/78 "2018-10-10T10:57:45Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> There are white Indians, just like there are white Africans and white Jamaicans. Nikki’s parents look Indian, but they aren’t particularly dark:
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> [https://marriedwiki.com/uploads/2017/10/nikki-haley-parents.jpg](https://marriedwiki.com/uploads/2017/10/nikki-haley-parents.jpg)

I would argue that her father at least could pass as white in the US, if he didn’t have the turban. It just seems that we don’t have much of an idea what white Indians look like.

And at no point did I try to remove her ethnicity. I just said she’s white. Since she looks white, she will have been treated as white. That’s all race is.

Trump doesn’t get credit for bringing on a woman he almost certainly thought was white.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/79 "2018-10-10T18:31:57Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> There is no need for this locker room talk in this thread. Knock it off.
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> [/moderating]

How in the name of common sense is that “locker room talk”? Have we sunk to the level where calmly and politely commenting on a person’s looks is considered vulgar???

Nikki Hailey is, in point of fact, objectively beautiful. If you don’t like people pointing that out, you need to resign from this board.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nikki-haley-for-president-trumps-plan/772894/80 "2018-10-10T18:38:12Z")

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I find it impossible to believe that Republicans would ever nominate a woman. They are the party of misogyny. To think that Donald gives a flying fuck in a rolling donut hole who succeeds him is preposterous. He is focused on two things only: staying out of prison and ripping off the government.

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