# Niles Crane Appreciation Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 16, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586 "2008-04-16T14:06:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/1 "2008-04-16T14:06:26Z")

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Dodging a [hijack](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=464042)—

David Hyde Pierce.  
Sheer genius.

And for the record, the minute I saw him in [Little Man Tate](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102316/) I said (to actual people, I just KNOW I said this aloud) “He looks like he could be Frasier’s little brother!”

Here’s [A Valentine for Niles](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxIBk1a3qdQ) (aka “Niles Ironing”, as **Annie X-mas** so succinctly stated 😃 ).

What about the one where he’s got a bag of flour that’s supposed to be a baby?

Or - the kitchen scene from Les Freres Heureux (butchered that French), where they buy that restaurant? He and Daphne are flinging eels around the room. Hysterical - I bought that season’s DVD for that scene alone.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/2 "2008-04-16T14:16:50Z")

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I absolutely love David Hyde Pierce. He is one of my favorite actors. He was fantastic on Frasier and I thought he was hilarious in Down With Love. I saw him in Curtians recently and I got the chance to meet him after the show. He was very nice and cracked jokes the whole time. If he were 20 years younger, 20 lbs heavier, and straight I would marry him. 🙂

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/3 "2008-04-16T14:29:25Z")

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I love Niles. He is easily one of my favorite fictional characters. Especially because I don’t think there is/was anybody on television who can get _quite_ as catty and mean as Niles.

“You haven’t been this absorbed with a topic since Frasier Crane Day.”

There are so many episodes I really love, too. The first time he dances the tango with Daphne, the episode when he sleeps with Lilith, the one where he throws a dinner party and his new pet bird attaches itself to his head and won’t let go…

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/4 "2008-04-16T14:50:21Z")

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Non-_Fraser_ but still Hyde-Peirce, he was hilarious as **Emporer Zombie**.

“I’m so excited I just made water in my pantaloons!”

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/5 "2008-04-16T14:55:08Z")

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“He was driving something called a ‘hunchback’”.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/6 "2008-04-16T15:24:41Z")

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[QUOTE=pepperlandgirl]  
I love Niles. He is easily one of my favorite fictional characters. Especially because I don’t think there is/was anybody on television who can get _quite_ as catty and mean as Niles.  
[/QUOTE]  
“Frasier, there’s something I have to tell you. Dad wanted to, but I won the coin toss.”

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/7 "2008-04-16T15:29:35Z")

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[SMUG NILES]“Who’s wearing shorts in the shower _now_?”[/SMUG NILES]  
I love Niles.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/8 "2008-04-16T15:31:01Z")

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My favorite Niles quote:

> [@Niles](#):
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> I’m always the girl! In every prep school play I was the girl! Guinevere, Marian the Librarian, Ado Annie. Well, no more, I’m through with it! When do I get to be Shoeless Joe from Hannibal, Mo’?!

That scene was preceded by the title card: I draw the line at Blanche DuBois

My favorite Niles-related quote:

> [@Frasier](#):
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> Now, whenever I look at you, I will see the back of my brother’s head!! And that is one bucket of ice water, let me tell ya!

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/9 "2008-04-16T16:45:08Z")

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(Niles talking about Maris)

“She wanted to become a ballerina, but she couldn’t gain enough weight.”

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/10 "2008-04-16T17:18:05Z")

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Sorry…misunderstood post.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/11 "2008-04-16T17:19:51Z")

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“Cherry bark and almonds.”

The way Niles says that just breaks my heart, every time.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/12 "2008-04-16T17:32:41Z")

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One of the most memorable _Simpsons_ eps is [“Brother from Another Series,”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_from_Another_Series) the one featuring recently paroled Sideshow Bob (voiced by Kelsey Grammer) and his brother Cecil (yes, Cecil) (voiced by David Hyde Pierce).

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/13 "2008-04-16T19:55:37Z")

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In my market, San Diego CA, they play two episodes of Frasier back to back in the evening. The first is a newer episode and the next is an older one. The contrast of their age and looks is fun.

I believe it was the episode where Frasier and Niles are going to write a book together and they get to bickering on the wording of a sentence and they get all huffy and one of them, I forget who says, “You’re an incomplete thought.”

I try to use that line as much as possible but the opportunities are rare.

EDIT: That Simpsons episode is one of my favorites. They bicker with each other just like in Frasier.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/14 "2008-04-16T19:57:22Z")

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I saw the Valentine episode just this morning.

My favorite is still his parenting of the sack of flour.

“Last night I dreamed someone kidnapped my sack of flour and was sending me muffins in the mail.”

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/15 "2008-04-16T21:00:39Z")

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Oh, good ones, all of these.

Now I can finally use this opportunity to show my sig.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/16 "2008-04-16T22:42:16Z")

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I love “The Therapist Song” aka “Therapy Rap” aka “Hit the Couch”.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDWeWLkD87o)

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/17 "2008-04-16T22:46:04Z")

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Not a Niles quote, but it’s _about_ Niles:

Hail the corkmaster!  
Master of the cork!  
He knows which wine goes with  
fish or pork.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/18 "2008-04-16T23:06:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Tahssa]

I believe it was the episode where Frasier and Niles are going to write a book together and they get to bickering on the wording of a sentence and they get all huffy and one of them, I forget who says, “You’re an incomplete thought.”

I try to use that line as much as possible but the opportunities are rare.

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This is, by far, my favorite episode. I always lose it when Frasier tackles Niles to the bed. “YOU STOLE MY MOMMY!”

And a classic line from the sack of flour episode:  
Niles: I was practicing my Tai Chi this morning, and I accidentally kicked him into the reflecting pool. That’s when I brought him inside and left him by the hearth to dry.  
Frasier: He caught fire?  
Niles: I was not as careless as it seems. A real child would have _cried_ before it burst into flames!

Oh, and an example of Niles being catty, from the ep where he wants to buy Maris a car.  
Frasier: I happen to think that bribery is the wrong way for couples to resolve their conflicts.  
Niles: And during which of your failed marriages did you hone that theory?

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/19 "2008-04-17T00:15:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
“Frasier, there’s something I have to tell you. Dad wanted to, but I won the coin toss.”  
[/QUOTE]

Dang it, you STOLE mine.

Agreed all around. What a great character. Just when you thought Frasier Crane was the biggest prig around, wait till you meet his brother. And to think Frasier wasn’t even supposed to HAVE a brother, until a casting director saw DHP’s headshot and brought it to a meeting, saying, “This is Frasier’s younger brother.”

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/niles-crane-appreciation-thread/445586/20 "2008-04-17T00:27:05Z")

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To me, Niles and Frasier are like Lennon and McCartney… their individual talents, though undeniably great, are completely eclipsed by the quality of their collaboration.

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