# nintendo really messed up this time **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975 "2004-02-01T01:26:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AtomicBanana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@AtomicBanana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicBanana)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/21 "2004-02-01T12:42:10Z")
> [@BraheSilver](#): > > In the thread devoted to that clip (look in CS, I can’t be bothered to validate my claim 😉 ) it’s been found that that’s a fake. Dammit. If you can’t trust people who put things on the internet, who _can_ you trust? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/22 "2004-02-01T13:49:52Z")
> [@emekthian](#): > > Zelda’s the only one that made it to 3D _better_ than it was in 2D (Orcarina o Time is better than Link to the Past, hands down). I’m going to have to jump in here just to disagree strongly with that statement. Sure, Occarina of Time was _fun_, but Link to the Past is perhaps the _best game of its kind ever made_. In terms of design, music, and feel, I don’t think it’s ever been bested. S’far as Mario, well. I just beat Mario 2 the other day. Now _that_ caused me some problems, though not many. Try that, sonny. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/23 "2004-02-01T14:22:33Z")
Hmm, to beat any difficult game you need to acheive that highest and most glorious state of gaming consciousness. You become disembodied hands and eyes, nothing else of you is real. You no longer have to look around the screen to know where things are, you just absorb it all at once. Time slows down. You start making every move right cause you’re already three moves ahead of you guy. I love that state. Too steal a Dilbert word, it’s nerdvana. Until you find that state grasshopper, this game shall be your albatross. I’ll back you up **Cheese Monster**. No annoying Navi with long winded explanations, no difficult camera angles and a character model that fit the game better. A Link to the Past and Link’s Awakening, now that’s some good game play. The guy that faked the Mario III footage didn’t mean to deceive people. If you follow one of the URLs at the end of the video you go to his webpage and he tells you how he did it. He did it for some friends cause he thought it would look cool. Someone else who didn’t read it downloaded the video, misinterpreted what was going on and it ran with it. ---
**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/24 "2004-02-01T14:23:42Z")
> **[Super Mario Brothers 3 - Time Attack Video](https://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/smb3)** > > All the levels passed in Super Mario Bros. 3 in just over 11 minutes. Check that out. Its a video of someone beating SMB3 in 11 minutes. It is hard to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/25 "2004-02-01T15:14:01Z")
> [@Merkwurdigliebe](#): > > [Super Mario Brothers 3 - Time Attack Video | Videos](http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/smb3.php) > > Check that out. Its a video of someone beating SMB3 in 11 minutes. It is hard to believe. [singing]Someone’s not paying attention!!![/singing] ---
**Author:** ![Thrasymachus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@Thrasymachus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thrasymachus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/26 "2004-02-01T16:57:07Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Almost forgot. > > Miller and Fenris. You took me back to those huge cartridges I had to plug into the VIC-20. You know, the text based ones. My favorite was the one where you were in a castle and at some point had to use a dumb-waiter to get to another level of the building. (Off to check ebay for VIC-20’s) Does anyone know the name of that game? > > Good times. The Count, by Scott Adams. Nifty games, those… I remember playing Voodoo Castle for weeks trying to beat it on the old VIC. WHAT SHALL I DO NOW? heh. Having a cartridge at all was a big luxury for a game back in early 80’s. Some of the computer magazines had program listings for games to play, and my brother and I took turns typing the code in. Typically it would take all weekend for a decent arcade-y one, much less for a “blackjack” or similar. ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/27 "2004-02-01T18:26:18Z")
> [@](#): > > How DOES one cheat in SMB3? I mean, there’s no codes. If you exploited some 1-up scheme, that’s not cheating. Or maybe you mean the E-reader cards to give yourself stuff? That’s cheating (from my “NES player” perspective). Double-warp-whistling is about the closest you can get to cheating. Oh, yeah: The amazing video was done with many, many save states. It’s still a great video, though, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/28 "2004-02-01T18:33:31Z")
Lol, sorry about the pointless link there, LOL. I WASN’T paying attention! Anyway, how can you make a video like that with save states? Having to make all of those edits on a video program wouldn’t be so easy. I suppose if there would be some way to record not the video, but on software so it would play back the game as you played it. Anyone know? ---
**Author:** ![emekthian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecae2f/32.png) [@emekthian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emekthian)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/29 "2004-02-01T19:12:03Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m going to have to jump in here just to disagree strongly with that statement. Sure, Occarina of Time was fun, but Link to the Past is perhaps the best game of its kind ever made. In terms of design, music, and feel, I don’t think it’s ever been bested. Orcarina of Time and Link to the Past were both excellent games, no doubt about it. I would say that they both had equally good gameplay. Orcarina, however, had all the fancy 3D graphics, the bigger world, the cutscenes, etc. These are really superficial things, and gameplay is always more important than them. However, when the gameplay of 2 games is equal (like OoT and LttP), these superficial things can make a great game a really friggin’ excellent game. ---
**Author:** ![Taters](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taters/32/2845_2.png) [@Taters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taters)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/30 "2004-02-01T19:15:43Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yeah, and according to his profile, he’s 40 years old. I’m wondering if one of his kids got a hold of his account? Okay folks, Taters, the 11 year old’s mother speaking here. I am so sorry about this. I didn’t even know that he had gotten on the board until I received an e-mail from Lynn. She had removed my privileges (rightly so) until I got this matter sorted out. My son has been spoken to and is now blocked. He has seen me on this board for awhile now, and had forgotten that I had told him that this was for ADULTS only. He is very sorry and hopes that he didn’t offend anyone. I, for that matter, am sorry too. Please accept my apologies. Contritely, Taters ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/31 "2004-02-01T19:16:47Z")
> [@Grumple Grommit](#): > > Don’t you have to be 13 or older to post here? Yes, you do. I have discussed this issue with the adult, who has taken steps to see that the child no longer has access to the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/32 "2004-02-01T19:21:32Z")
> [@Thrasymachus](#): > > The Count, by Scott Adams. Nifty games, those… I remember playing Voodoo Castle for weeks trying to beat it on the old VIC. > > WHAT SHALL I DO NOW? > > heh. > > Having a cartridge at all was a big luxury for a game back in early 80’s. Some of the computer magazines had program listings for games to play, and my brother and I took turns typing the code in. Typically it would take all weekend for a decent arcade-y one, much less for a “blackjack” or similar. Yeah, I remember typing in games for my TI99 4/A. I became a very, very careful typist during that period, as it was aggravating to type, then try to run the program, and then have to proofread the damn thing. And I solved Voodoo Castle in one night, I’m afraid. My husband was quite upset, as those games cost a good bit of money back then. ---
**Author:** ![Thrasymachus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@Thrasymachus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thrasymachus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/33 "2004-02-02T16:33:44Z")
> [@Lynn Bodoni](#): > > Yeah, I remember typing in games for my TI99 4/A. I became a very, very careful typist during that period, as it was aggravating to type, then try to run the program, and then have to proofread the damn thing. > > And I solved Voodoo Castle in one night, I’m afraid. My husband was quite upset, as those games cost a good bit of money back then. One night!!!? :eek: Wow. Granted I was 10 years old at the time that I played it, but I think that makes you the champ!! Even today I don’t think I could do it again in that time. I’m impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2004, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/34 "2004-02-02T23:08:31Z")
> [@Lynn Bodoni](#): > > Yeah, I remember typing in games for my TI99 4/A. I became a very, very careful typist during that period, as it was aggravating to type, then try to run the program, and then have to proofread the damn thing. eep. You just gave me flashbacks. There was a game on the Radio Shack CoCo that took me…oh, a month to get typed in properly (I had a cassette tape backup…took like, 20 minutes to…um…upload? the code to ram). I remember nothing about the game itself (other than it was a hexagonal field in yellow and you played a bee) but I couldn’t believe it when it finally _worked_ ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2004, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/35 "2004-02-02T23:51:07Z")
The most interesting thing about this thread, in my opinion, is that it was discussed and enlarged upon, and not riduculed (as I probably would have done). That’s what I love about this board-even an 11-year-old is considered part of the family. Welcome to and goodbye from the SDMB, **Taters** ’ child! ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Serpentine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@Silver\_Serpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Serpentine)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/36 "2004-02-03T01:16:31Z")
T’only game I’ve ever bought a strategy guide to was Link to the Past. I have it for my SNES and my Game Boy SP. I love that game. And being able to play it on road trips makes me happy. Hehe. Now, the first game I ever played was either Funnels and Buckets or Amy’s First Primer, on my old Tandy 2000. Ooooooh yeeeeah. Anyway, I find games to be easier these days, too. Just Run Around And Kill Things. Except computer games. I still haven’t beaten 7th Guest, Gabriel Knight 3, or Dungeon Master. Grrr. ---
**Author:** ![Will\_Repair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Will\_Repair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Will_Repair)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/37 "2004-02-03T01:38:44Z")
Infinite Lives (World 3-9) At the begining of the level there is a turtle koopa, pick it up and run all the way over to where the bullet bills are sepertated by the wall. Throw the koopa between the bullet bill and wall and the wall will break open. Then the two bullet bills will shoot out bullets when this happens you will get points and eventually lives. Make sure when you throw the koopa you quickly. Run on top of the wood blocks above this also works if you throw the koopa beetween the bullet bill and the pipe but is slower! ---
**Author:** ![Taters](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/taters/32/2845_2.png) [@Taters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taters)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975/38 "2004-02-03T01:42:34Z")
> [@mobo85](#): > > The most interesting thing about this thread, in my opinion, is that it was discussed and enlarged upon, and not riduculed (as I probably would have done). That’s what I love about this board-even an 11-year-old is considered part of the family. > > Welcome to and goodbye from the SDMB, **Taters** ’ child! I have noticed this also. Thank you all for not flaming my son. That’s what I like about the SDMB, you’re all a nice bunch of folks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nintendo-really-messed-up-this-time/226975.md?page=1)