# Nitpick about Daylight Savings Time **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 8, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090 "2020-03-08T06:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/1 "2020-03-08T06:58:44Z")
So I wake up this morning, stumble over to the laptop to see what I missed at SDMB. The timestamps are “Today” but _after_ local time. No problem; that just means I’ve not refreshed that page for 22 hours or so. Click! No help. Come to think of it, I think this happens every year. I am NOT concerned about it — I think this SDMB rendition of my clock will become correct again when Chicago springs forward a couple of hours from now. This obviously is not an important problem compared with your 504’s, 505’s, 666’s and whatever these timeouts are. I’m presenting it as a _puzzle_. WHY does the SDMB clock appear an hour ahead? We have no DST here, so I have DST corrections set to OFF. Setting it to AUTOMATIC gets the same result. If I set corrections to ON, your clock appears TWO hours ahead! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/2 "2020-03-08T07:10:05Z")
Here’s a nitpic for you. It’s \*[Daylight Saving Time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States). And I like your numbered timeouts, especially 666. Reminds me of the one time someone posted that to get through the telephone menu he had to enter all the digits of pi. 666 also happens to be the bus route that takes me to Wal-Mart here. Coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/3 "2020-03-08T07:32:58Z")
Damn coding errors and timeouts! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/4 "2020-03-08T07:37:12Z")
You’re over here near me, **Monty**. Are your SDMB times also off by an hour? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/5 "2020-03-08T08:43:15Z")
When I apply Beijing time to my options, it’s correct. I changed it to Central Time and it seems to be two hours off now. I’m going to change it back to Beijing time so it won’t bug me. (Sorry about the horrible pun.) ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/6 "2020-03-08T14:19:53Z")
Try Livin’ on Tulsa Time ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/7 "2020-03-08T17:35:05Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Try Livin’ on Tulsa Time Wasn’t that a country song?😕 Tripler “Take me back to Tulsa, It’s Daylight Savings Time to marry. . .” ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/8 "2020-03-09T00:58:13Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Try Livin’ on Tulsa Time Tulsa spelled backwards is A Slut. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/9 "2020-03-09T18:05:03Z")
Feh. Yesterday I showed up to a location a hour early because of the time showing on my phone. Figuring I must have nudged the time zone setting or something I check. Nope, _Automatic time and date - use network provided time._ Okay. Lessee, _Automatic time zone - Use network-provided time zone_ is set an-n-nd Verizon has the time zone as _Denver - Mountain Daylight Time - UTC -6 hr_. Apparently they figure the zone stops at the Rockies. If anything, the zone _should_ be Phoenix - Mountain Standard Time - UTC-7 hrs. Phoenix, after all has a bigger population than Denver, Salt Lake City, Boise, and El Paso combined. Stoopid Verizon. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/10 "2020-03-09T20:11:51Z")
It’s funnier in the palindrome form: Tulsa nightlife: Filth, gin, a slut. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/11 "2020-03-09T22:58:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s funnier in the palindrome form: > > Tulsa nightlife: Filth, gin, a slut. Wouldn’t that be “E-filth, gin, a slut”? Which, somehow makes it more up-to-date. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/12 "2020-03-09T23:32:28Z")
Nope that’s not how palindromes work. It reads the same backwards and forwards. You have to ignore punctuation in this one, which I think is pretty common. To get efilth you’d have to add an E. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/13 "2020-03-10T00:36:11Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Feh. Yesterday I showed up to a location a hour early because of the time showing on my phone. Figuring I must have nudged the time zone setting or something I check. Nope, _Automatic time and date - use network provided time._ Okay. Lessee, _Automatic time zone - Use network-provided time zone_ is set an-n-nd Verizon has the time zone as _Denver - Mountain Daylight Time - UTC -6 hr_. Apparently they figure the zone stops at the Rockies. If anything, the zone _should_ be Phoenix - Mountain Standard Time - UTC-7 hrs. Phoenix, after all has a bigger population than Denver, Salt Lake City, Boise, and El Paso combined. > > Stoopid Verizon. Phoenix, being in Arizona, doesn’t observe Daylight Saving so technically just setting to “Mountain Daylight Time” isn’t necessarily going to give you the correct time. You’re right, Arizona should be it’s own time zone and Verizon erred if it put you in the same time zone as Denver using location data. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/14 "2020-03-10T01:07:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wouldn’t that be “E-filth, gin, a slut”? Which, somehow makes it more up-to-date. Uh, “nightlife” has an “e” in it. “Filth, gin, a slut” does not have an “e”. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/15 "2020-03-10T02:00:45Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Uh, “nightlife” has an “e” in it. “Filth, gin, a slut” does not have an “e”. Palindromes can rotate around a single letter–the ‘e’ in nightlife, in this case. Doubling the e is not necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/16 "2020-03-10T04:18:24Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > Palindromes can rotate around a single letter–the ‘e’ in nightlife, in this case. Doubling the e is not necessary. What doubling? What rotating around the “e”? There is no “e” in “Filth, gin, a slut”. Aside: Dang, this one heck of a derail. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/17 "2020-03-10T05:21:14Z")
“Tulsa nightlife” + “filth, gin, a slut” -\> tulsanightlif -\> e \<- filthginaslut Does that help? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/18 "2020-03-10T06:42:51Z")
Not really. I get what you’re saying, but maybe I’m just too pedantic. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/19 "2020-03-10T07:08:15Z")
BMDS was I ere I saw SDMB. BMDS was I e -\> r \<- e I saw SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090/20 "2020-03-10T09:10:13Z")
That works, **septimus** , because the “r” is in both. The one I’m talking about doesn’t have the “e” (which in your examle has an “r” in the “pivot point”) in it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nitpick-about-daylight-savings-time/849090.md?page=2)