# Nixon...Reagan...Bush...Who's the Evillest? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681 "2003-11-11T21:33:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/81 "2003-11-15T07:07:35Z")
Yeah, but it’s the _delivery_. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/82 "2003-11-15T08:20:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xenophon41 \* > So **rjung** , Ford doesn’t even rate? Dang, I knew I forgot something! :smack: What can I say, Jerry’s so forgettable. 😉 Okay, stick him at the bottom of all the lists, Chevy Chase blunders aside, I can’t recall him doing anything even half as controversial as Carter’s “men lust in their hearts” biz. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/83 "2003-11-15T08:36:57Z")
redacted I had a long diatribe/rant at some folks who were members of Nixon, Reagan and Bush '41 and Bush '43 (chimpy) I included Colin Powell - a guy I once totally respected and trusted - despite what he wrote in his 1995 book (Zippo-torching of Vietnam villages in 1963, Caspar Weinbergers right-hand man yet out-of-the-loop WRT Iran/Contra). I trusted Colin Powell when he went before the United Nations and after playing weird radio intercepts, and far-off pictures of tractor-trailers, he held up a vial of some vile poison. "This much stuff, he warned, ‘is enough to bring The Bronx up and the Battery down!’ Colin Powell is a liar - a tool of the Bush Cartel. That really, really sucks. If I weren’t already so cynical, you all would _feel_ my loss of innocence. The current Bush Cartel has poisoned the well of Democracy. Maybe it started back with Newt in 1994. Yet think forward some fifty years - this Bush Cartel will have adversely affected the USA far more than any other President. Indeed, I wonder if there will ever _be_ another President. _ominous music_ The Unelected Fraud/Chimpy met the Queen of England once before. This is back when Poppy was President. This tale is going all’round the British (and Indian) Press: [By George! (the Independant)](http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=463147) > [@](#): > > Finally, there is Bush the buffoon. There is another reason for his aversion to press conferences: in anything but the most tightly scripted circumstances he is capable of saying anything. Sometimes it works fine, as at his father’s state banquet for the Queen in 1991, when he boasted to her that he had embroidered his new cowboy boots with the phrase “God Save the Queen”, before confessing he had been his family’s black sheep. “Who’s yours?” he then asked the sovereign, to the horror of his mother. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/84 "2003-11-15T13:22:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Okay, stick him at the bottom of all the lists, Chevy Chase blunders aside, I can’t recall him doing anything even half as controversial as Carter’s “men lust in their hearts” biz. 🙂 Well, there was that pardoning Nixon thing. But it’s hard to stay mad at Gerald. ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/85 "2003-11-15T14:45:29Z")
So, how old is Jeb Bush. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/86 "2003-11-15T15:03:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \* > \*\*A Republican! a Republican! Quick people, come and see. They _do_ still post on the SDMB. \*\* Right you are, guv! _Byoot_iful plumage! But 'e’s all shagged out from pining for the Fords. And there, with 'im? Isn’t that a Gross Canard? ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/87 "2003-11-15T15:15:59Z")
_How can we be in if there is no outside?_ - Clash, London Calling Cheers, L\_C 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/88 "2003-11-15T15:43:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > And there, with 'im? Isn’t that a Gross Canard? Not sure, old cock. Difficult to make 'im out clearly in this false dawn. On a vaguely serious point, one _possible_ benefit from having leaders such as Bush is that they politicise a fresh generation of youth. Well, some of it, enough of it; leaders abuse the democratic process, youth reacts/responds, perhaps its all part of a natural symmetry. How did _you_ get to be so politically aware ? Karma. Peace and dandruff. Indeed **Corbomite** , taught 'em all they knew. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/89 "2003-11-15T15:49:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \* > \*\*…How did _you_ get to be so politically aware ?.. \*\* Turned 18 in 1966, hence, eligible. Kinda brought things into focus. Maybe that’s why this whole thing has a ghastly sense of _deja puke_. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/90 "2003-11-15T16:09:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Corbomite \* > I trusted Colin Powell when he went before the United Nations and after playing weird radio intercepts, and far-off pictures of tractor-trailers, he held up a vial of some vile poison. "This much stuff, he warned, ‘is enough to bring The Bronx up and the Battery down!’ Chalk it up to his [Dope habit](http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/texts/03110700.htm): > [@](#): > > **Secretary Powell** : Yes. Well, I wouldn’t call them that. They’re a wonderful medication – not medication. How would you call it? They’re called ambien, which is very good. You don’t use ambien? Everybody here uses ambien. ---
**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/91 "2003-11-15T18:30:45Z")
> [@](#): > > McNally: You point back to Reagan who had ideas you didn’t agree with but at least sold them on what he believed to be their merits. Whether it was true or not, it was the actual case. > > Krugman: That’s right. Reagan, I think sincerely believed in trickle-down economics. Look, it’s funny. Not only do I miss Reagan who I thought had bad policies but didn’t approach the skullduggery of these people, I actually miss Nixon. Although God knows he did skullduggery, as John Dean says, even Nixon didn’t go after the wives, [From an interview with Paul Krugman](http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17169) According to my liberal thought-control yogurt maker, if Krugman said it, it’s true. Still, GW [“Johnny Chimpo”](http://primepuzzle.com/leeslightest/bushvschimp.html) Bush seems too oblivious to be evil. He’s like Jar Jar Binks to Cheney’s Palpatine (sorry, couldn’t resist). Can we qualify the debate, and say that Bush has the most evil administration, while Nixon himself was the most evil pres.? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/92 "2003-11-15T18:49:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 'possum stalker \* > Can we qualify the debate, and say that Bush has the most evil administration, while Nixon himself was the most evil pres.? No, sorry, that’s not allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Andros\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Andros\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andros_X)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/93 "2003-11-16T07:19:53Z")
I’m willing to go with **'possum stalker** and say that Dubya has the most evil administration. I would say that Reagan and Nixon tie for most evil prez, however. While Cheney bothers me, I have a bigger beef with Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, and Rove. There’s the Four Horsemen right there – Ashcroft sickens me with his iron-fisted ways, Rove is completely full of shit, and Rumsfeld is an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![minega](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@minega](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minega)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/94 "2003-11-16T16:44:11Z")
If you want to have a go at Rumsfeld, read Frank Johnson’s blog that satirizes life in the white house and potrays Rummy the wat we all imagine him… > **[IMAO](https://www.imao.us/)** > > Unfair. Unbalanced. Unmedicated. scroll down and look for the ‘in my world’ posts…go in the archives as well and dig them all up, its so outragesouly funny ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/95 "2003-11-16T16:59:16Z")
Ditto what **Andros\_X** says. George W. Bush isn’t half as scary without having those guys feed him his bullshit lines to the rest of the world. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: George W. is such an amiable and folksy guy, he’d make a great greeter at Wal-Mart. The problem is that he isn’t there now… ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681/96 "2003-11-17T19:09:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > \*\*Fair enough. Having read up on the Iran-Contra scandal for a bit, I’m inclined to agree. So, Reagan et al were more evil than Bush Jr. et al. It’s also been proposed that Nixon et al were perhaps even more evil. So, for all Republican administrations since Nixon, we have the following Top Evil List: > > 1. Nixon > 2. Reagan I & II > 3. George W. Bush > 4. George Bush sr. > > Everybody in agreement so far? 🙂 \*\* I agree with the Nixon #1 ranking (even though evil is a bit overboard) but for differing reasons. Under the RMN administration:[ul] [li]Automatic cost of living adjustments for entitlements[/li][li]Wage & Price Controls - Which led to stagflation[/li][li]Social spending increased 240% [/li][li]Federal regulation increase of 120%[/li][li]Racial Quotas - Whic contributed to a setback in race relations[/li][li]Pissing in the face of Taiwan[/li][li]Leaving SE Asia in ruins - Can you say Khmer Rouge?[/ul] [/li] Gonna move him to 4th now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nixon-reagan-bush-whos-the-evillest/212681.md?page=4)