# NJ Senator Menendez indicted on multiple corruption charges {2023-09-22} - Convicted on all counts on July 16, 2024
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 22, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544 "2023-09-22T15:02:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/221 "2024-03-06T16:07:14Z")
There’s always some extra change fallen down behind the couch cushions.
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### Author:  [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/222 "2024-03-06T16:58:43Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> See, with a gold bar you never have that issue. It will just be the same when you come out as when you forgot it in your pocket!
Probably a few dents in the drums of the washer and dryer, though.
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### Author:  [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/223 "2024-03-06T17:24:16Z")
Kruggerands will completely clog up your lint trap
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### Author:  [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/224 "2024-03-06T18:48:54Z")
> [@RitterSport](#):
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> So, after all of the other charges, he decided to still keep half a million bucks just lying around his house?
No, they were describing the June 2022 raid, as part of a longer narrative.
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### Author:  [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/225 "2024-03-06T18:58:43Z")
So your kids are money launderers?
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### Author:  [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/226 "2024-03-06T20:01:48Z")
I can’t believe I set that up and completely failed to see it coming. 🤦♂️
I think I would be the money launderer. They are no type of launderer at all. It’s a fair division of labor: they dirty the clothes and we wash them.
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### Author:  [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/227 "2024-03-08T00:59:58Z")
New York Post scoop: “Gold bar Bob Menendez will not run for re-election to Senate in November — but still refuses to quit”
> **[Gold bar Bob Menendez will not run for re-election to Senate in November —...](https://nypost.com/2024/03/07/us-news/bob-menendez-will-not-run-for-senate-in-november/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost_sitebuttons)**
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> The New Jersey Democrat is charged with bribery, corruption and working as a foreign agent in return for cash and gold bars.
Gold Bar is pulling 9% support in the Democratic Primary, vs Kim with 32% and Murphy at 20%. Intrepid NY Post reporter previously uncovered story that water is wet, Pope is Catholic, and obvious is obvious.
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### Author:  [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/228 "2024-03-08T01:02:54Z")
I suppose a Democrat will pretty likely win in November, but Gold Bar would be doing the party a favor by resigning and letting the governor or a special election name a successor now, so whatever Democrat remains an incumbent.
However, he obviously doesn’t give a shit about his party or his constituents.
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### Author:  [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/229 "2024-03-08T01:37:58Z")
I don’t particularly have a problem with Menendez not resigning as long as he’s shut out of classified briefings. And if he did resign, Murphy would get to appoint his wife to the seat which would short-circuit the current race for the Democratic nomination.
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### Author:  [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2024, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/230 "2024-03-08T11:38:56Z")
> [@flurb](#):
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> And if he did resign, Murphy would get to appoint his wife to the seat which would short-circuit the current race for the Democratic nomination.
I agree with this part. That’s why he should have resigned a year ago when this all came back again and she wasn’t in the running.
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### Author:  [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [March 9, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/231 "2024-03-09T20:12:21Z")
> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I suppose a Democrat will pretty likely win in November, but Gold Bar would be doing the party a favor by resigning and letting the governor or a special election name a successor now, so whatever Democrat remains an incumbent.
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> However, he obviously doesn’t give a shit about his party or his constituents.
It’s more than likely, it’s a lock. The Republican primary is a bunch of no-names. The last elected Republican from the state left office in 1959. There have been Republican governors but that’s because when things aren’t going the way you like you blame the executive. Republican governors have appointed senators since then. Once when Harrison Williams pulled a Menendez and once when Lautenberg died. Chris Christie did the right thing with his appointment. He put in a caretaker senator who had no intention of running. Corey Booker then won the special election. I have no doubt Phil would name Tammy senator.
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### Author:  [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/232 "2024-03-22T01:22:59Z")
> **[New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez says he won't run in Democratic primary](https://apnews.com/article/menendez-bribery-senate-new-jersey-7a8cd625f5be3d2f2c4c1f2c2a72ff9e)**
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> Sen. Bob Menendez is leaving open the possibility that he would reenter the race as an independent later this year if he is exonerated at a trial.
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### Author:  [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/233 "2024-03-22T13:06:25Z")
Might run as an independent! It is but to laugh.
Lack of self-awareness, much?
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### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/234 "2024-03-22T13:16:31Z")
RFK Jr./Menedez 2024? Why not? What does he have to lose?
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### Author:  [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/235 "2024-03-22T16:46:45Z")
> [@PastTense](#):
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> [New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez says he won't run in Democratic primary | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/menendez-bribery-senate-new-jersey-7a8cd625f5be3d2f2c4c1f2c2a72ff9e)
Yeah I saw that today. That’s a guy who has had power and influence most of his life and can’t let go. If he had moved on after he got acquitted during his first trial he could still be in a position of power in the private sector. No one even remembers what he was in trouble for before. No one is going to forget goldbars even if he somehow gets off.
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### Author:  [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/236 "2024-03-23T22:23:12Z")
Or it proves that he’s corruptible, which is a prime characteristic for some jobs for ex-politicians. And if you’ve got extra dirt on them, you can control them.
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### Author:  [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/237 "2024-04-17T03:12:43Z")
Interesting strategy.
> **[Bob Menendez may blame his wife, Nadine Menendez, in defense on federal...](https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2024/04/16/bob-menendez-defense-may-target-his-wife-in-federal-bribery-trial/73348947007/)**
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> Sen. Bob Menendez could pin his defense strategy on his wife and co-defendant, Nadine Arslanian Menendez.
Possibly related?
> **[Menendez’ Wife Reveals ‘Serious Medical Condition’ in Request to Push Off Trial](https://www.thedailybeast.com/nadine-menendez-bob-menendezs-wife-reveals-serious-medical-condition-in-request-to-push-off-trial)**
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> Nadine Menendez said she needs surgery for the unspecified condition in the next four to six weeks—bringing her right up to her May 6 trial date.
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### Author:  [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/238 "2024-04-17T03:34:15Z")
Loach, you all deserve a better senator than these folks. Maybe the surgeon can do the job on his wife with needle-nosed pliers.
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### Author:  [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/239 "2024-04-17T19:42:50Z")
> [@Eric1](#):
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> Loach, you all deserve a better senator than these folks. Maybe the surgeon can do the job on his wife with needle-nosed pliers.
He definitely won’t be for long. His term is up. The senate won’t kick him out without a conviction.
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### Author:  [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-senator-menendez-indicted-on-multiple-corruption-charges-2023-09-22-convicted-on-all-counts-on-july-16-2024/990544/240 "2024-05-13T12:47:58Z")
Senator Menendez’ corruption trial starts today with a jury selection apparently. I couldn’t get the NBC article to link for some odd reason.
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