# NJ Transit train Silver Streaks into Hoboken

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 29, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202 "2016-09-29T14:19:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/1 "2016-09-29T14:19:13Z")

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Bad crash, one confirmed dead as of now but there’s still people trapped.

[story](http://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhle/watch/n-j-train-accident-in-hoboken-terminal-775598147540) here.

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**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/2 "2016-09-29T14:30:06Z")

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My old train line from back in the day. One thing I have decided in life is never sit in the first car of a train.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/3 "2016-09-29T14:53:07Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> Bad crash, one confirmed dead as of now but there’s still people trapped.
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> [story](http://www.msnbc.com/stephanie-ruhle/watch/n-j-train-accident-in-hoboken-terminal-775598147540) here.

Yeesh. Nothing at that URL but an auto-run video in a huge playlist of auto-run videos. If I wanted to watch TV, I’d have found a TV.

[Alternate reporting which actually uses words.](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/09/29/transit-train-crashes-new-jersey-station/91261182/) (Also has video for the reading-impaired, but not self-starting, so can be properly ignored.)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/4 "2016-09-29T14:59:30Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> Yeesh. Nothing at that URL but an auto-run video in a huge playlist of auto-run videos. If I wanted to watch TV, I’d have found a TV.

The OP had more useful information than that website!

Not only that, the “video” of the crash was a still picture.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/5 "2016-09-29T15:18:34Z")

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Funny thing is that the CBC news is reporting that Hoboken (which they accent on the second syllable) is more than 10 km from NYC. WTF? It’s right there across the Hudson, maybe a mile away. I’ve been there many times (but by PATH so maybe the NJT station is not that close).

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/6 "2016-09-29T15:26:32Z")

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Hoboken?! Oooh I’m dyin’!  
Sorry, couldn’t resist.

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**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/7 "2016-09-29T15:37:40Z")

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[http://www.northjersey.com/news/two-dead-over-100-injured-after-nj-transit-train-hits-hoboken-station-1.1668790](http://www.northjersey.com/news/two-dead-over-100-injured-after-nj-transit-train-hits-hoboken-station-1.1668790)

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**Author:** ![quimper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7c8e57/32.png) [@quimper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quimper)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/8 "2016-09-29T15:42:01Z")

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> Investigators determine that the engineer failed to control the speed of the train entering the station, and that the lack of automatic braking at the site contributed to the crash.

That was their findings on the 2011 crash. Since the PATH still doesn’t have positive train control I assume the NTSB report will look pretty similar. Maybe now they’ll [take the cue from SEPTA](http://www.septa.org/service/rail/ptc/2016-02-update.html) and speed up the [Dec 2018 deadline](http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/10/obama_signs_bill_extending_railroad_speed_control.html) before more people die pointlessly.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/9 "2016-09-29T17:19:44Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Funny thing is that the CBC news is reporting that Hoboken (which they accent on the second syllable) is more than 10 km from NYC. WTF? It’s right there across the Hudson, maybe a mile away. I’ve been there many times (but by PATH so maybe the NJT station is not that close).

How large an area is Hoboken? Plenty of municipalities are more than 10km across.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/10 "2016-09-29T17:29:28Z")

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Worst tribute to Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder _ever_.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/11 "2016-09-29T17:41:31Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> How large an area is Hoboken? Plenty of municipalities are more than 10km across.

Per Wikipedia, about 1.275 square miles.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/12 "2016-09-29T17:59:34Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Funny thing is that the CBC news is reporting that Hoboken (which they accent on the second syllable) is more than 10 km from NYC. WTF? It’s right there across the Hudson, maybe a mile away. I’ve been there many times (but by PATH so maybe the NJT station is not that close).

They’re probably using JFK airport or Laguardia as a proxy for NYC. You’re right though. I can see Hoboken from my office. [/Sarah Palin]

ETA: And Hoboken is tiny.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/13 "2016-09-29T19:11:12Z")

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> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#):
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> My old train line from back in the day. One thing I have decided in life is never sit in the first car of a train.

Wife says the same thing. Which makes me want to ask about it in GQ…

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**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/14 "2016-09-29T20:18:24Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Worst tribute to Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder _ever_.

On my top 50 or 100 movies I like! :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/15 "2016-09-30T00:01:21Z")

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> [@quimper](#):
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> That was their findings on the 2011 crash. Since the PATH still doesn’t have positive train control I assume the NTSB report will look pretty similar. Maybe now they’ll [take the cue from SEPTA](http://www.septa.org/service/rail/ptc/2016-02-update.html) and speed up the [Dec 2018 deadline](http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/10/obama_signs_bill_extending_railroad_speed_control.html) before more people die pointlessly.

Or they could hire babysitters to make sure the engineer is awake. A lot of train buffs would take that job for free. This is a problem in search of some common sense.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/16 "2016-09-30T00:46:30Z")

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I used to commute that route (just not on the Pascack Line).

Looking at the pix, I originally thought it was Track 3.

I was wrong; it was Track 5…

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**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nj-transit-train-silver-streaks-into-hoboken/767202/17 "2016-09-30T14:07:59Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> How large an area is Hoboken? Plenty of municipalities are more than 10km across.

It is referred to as the Mile Square City, since it is pretty close to 1 mile by 1 mile square. It is also my former home town.
