# No admins now?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340>\
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**Created:** [January 9, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340 "2014-01-09T05:10:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/121 "2014-01-14T17:06:30Z")

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Is this all fallout from the hacking? Feels like a lot of wagon-circling and ass-covering going on.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/122 "2014-01-14T17:40:16Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> You know who used to threaten people who asked too many questions?  
> Hitler.

I would’ve guessed Nixon…

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/123 "2014-01-14T18:40:52Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> I would’ve guessed Nixon…

I was going to guess my mother but whatever.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/124 "2014-01-14T18:41:51Z")

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I think **Giraffe** nailed the reason upthread. If such is the case it’s pretty clear why the staff won’t discuss this at present.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/125 "2014-01-14T20:07:22Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> I think **Giraffe** nailed the reason upthread. If such is the case it’s pretty clear why the staff won’t discuss this at present.

It’s not clear to me.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/126 "2014-01-14T20:23:25Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> It’s not clear to me.

I believe Giraffe thinks they have a second account that is an admin account.  
I work on network computers. I have a regular old account, named, say “plant” that I use most of the time. If I need to do something administrative, I log on with my “plant.admin” account.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/127 "2014-01-14T20:41:45Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I believe Giraffe thinks they have a second account that is an admin account.  
> I work on network computers. I have a regular old account, named, say “plant” that I use most of the time. If I need to do something administrative, I log on with my “plant.admin” account.

I’m not suggesting that they tell us the actual name of the phantom admin account, obviously. What harm is there is revealing that one exists? Anyone savvy enough to make use of that information wouldn’t need to be told that information anyway.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/128 "2014-01-14T20:43:46Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I believe Giraffe thinks they have a second account that is an admin account.

I have no idea if this is or isn’t the case, I just said I thought it would be a good idea. I also speculated that admin access was removed from everyone but Jerry as a security measure, but I don’t actually know anything. In any case, I have no idea why the staff all appear to be forbidden from discussing the change in their usergroup and/or admin status. That makes no sense to me. No one is suing the SDMB because some hacker stole their password.

I also have to wonder about the crack legal team that is advising them.

😕 “We’ve had multiple reports that our site is directly serving people malware that could result in identity theft or damage to their computer.”  
:rolleyes: “Eh, who gives a shit. Lots of sites have ads, let the moochers pay us for an account if they don’t want malware.”

😕 “Someone found an exploit in the vBulletin software and stole encrypted passwords from several sites, including ours. If users were to reuse those same passwords on other sites, they could potentially be accessed by the hackers.”  
:eek: “Dear God, no! This is it, the End of Days! No one say anything or we’re all going down!”

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/129 "2014-01-14T20:51:55Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I’m not suggesting that they tell us the actual name of the phantom admin account, obviously. What harm is there is revealing that one exists? Anyone savvy enough to make use of that information wouldn’t need to be told that information anyway.

Does Macy’s tell Gimble’s?  
Giraffe, thank you for the correction. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/130 "2014-01-14T20:54:47Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> **samclem** , to clarify that I’m reading this right - are you threatening \*\*silenus’ \*\* posting privileges for pressing for an answer to the question about the Admin status of various moderators (the entire topic of this thread)?

How the _hell_ did you draw that inference from **samclem** ’s post? 😕😕

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/131 "2014-01-14T21:01:33Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> How the _hell_ did you draw that inference from **samclem** ’s post? 😕😕

How the hell don’t you?

> [@samclem](#):
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> As a poster I admire, you should just let this slide. Alternatively, you could continue to make fun of an unfortunate situation, which could happen to any site out there.
> 
> Your call.

It sounds a lot like the old “This is a nice shop you got here… would be a shame if anything happened to it” gambit.

I’m happy to be corrected if \*\*samclem \*\*would like to do so.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/132 "2014-01-14T21:15:22Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> How the hell don’t you?
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> It sounds a lot like the old “This is a nice shop you got here… would be a shame if anything happened to it” gambit.
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> I’m happy to be corrected if \*\*samclem \*\*would like to do so.

Whatever you’re smoking, please share it with the whole class.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/133 "2014-01-14T21:15:40Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> Admins on this Board are
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> C K Dexter Haven  
> Gaudere  
> Gfactor  
> Marley23  
> TubaDiva

How are you expecting a returning user or new user to know who they should contact for admin-related help?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/134 "2014-01-14T21:26:34Z")

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And as an aside, **Gaudere** is still an admin? I haven’t seen her in ages.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/135 "2014-01-14T21:30:09Z")

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Well, she _was_.

She posts very very infrequently now.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/136 "2014-01-14T21:34:40Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> It sounds a lot like the old “This is a nice shop you got here… would be a shame if anything happened to it” gambit.
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> I’m happy to be corrected if \*\*samclem \*\*would like to do so.

I interpret it more like, “I thought you were to nice a guy to rag us about this.”  
But then, I’m often wrong as most 'Dopers know. 🙂

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/137 "2014-01-14T21:46:55Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I interpret it more like, “I thought you were to nice a guy to rag us about this.”

I thought the same thing, especially since I didn’t get the same admonishment.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/138 "2014-01-14T22:11:08Z")

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Anybody who thinks I’m too nice a guy to rag them over something like this has obviously not been paying attention the last 10 years or so.

But I respect **samclem** , and when he asked that I let it slide, I let it slide.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/139 "2014-01-15T00:20:25Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> **samclem** , to clarify that I’m reading this right - are you threatening \*\*silenus’ \*\* posting privileges for pressing for an answer to the question about the Admin status of various moderators (the entire topic of this thread)?
> 
> The purpose of this thread is not to make fun of an unfortunate situation, but to ask a very simple question about the status of admins/mods on this board that nobody seems willing or able to answer, even with a “sorry we can’t comment on our current statuses.” I mean it was however many days before a mod of any kind even popped in here, without any kind of answer, and now you’re here threatening posters for even asking what’s up.

> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> How the _hell_ did you draw that inference from **samclem** ’s post? 😕😕

> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> How the hell don’t you?
> 
> It sounds a lot like the old “This is a nice shop you got here… would be a shame if anything happened to it” gambit.
> 
> I’m happy to be corrected if \*\*samclem \*\*would like to do so.

> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> How are you expecting a returning user or new user to know who they should contact for admin-related help?

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I interpret it more like, “I thought you were to nice a guy to rag us about this.”  
> But then, I’m often wrong as most 'Dopers know. 🙂

> [@hajario](#):
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> I thought the same thing, especially since I didn’t get the same admonishment.

> [@silenus](#):
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> Anybody who thinks I’m too nice a guy to rag them over something like this has obviously not been paying attention the last 10 years or so.
> 
> But I respect **samclem** , and when he asked that I let it slide, I let it slide.

It wasn’t a threat. I don’t do that unless someone threatens me/SDMB first. Didn’t happen in this case.

And, yes, new registrants/returnees might have trouble finding an Admin. I provided a list of them to help.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-admins-now/678340/140 "2014-01-15T00:23:28Z")

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