# No bone to pick **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 23, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466 "2018-07-23T18:53:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/41 "2018-07-24T12:47:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > You’re equating perceived anti-White bias in an apparently Black American with trolling. > > Was that _really_ the equivalency you wanted to make? That’s not a remotely reasonable interpretation of what I wrote. To be clear, I do not _equate_ the two. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/42 "2018-07-24T13:05:22Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > That’s not a remotely reasonable interpretation of what I wrote. To be clear, I do not _equate_ the two. An apple and a orange or both examples of fruit. By saying that, I did not equate an apple with an orange. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/43 "2018-07-24T13:24:32Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Huh. A paranoid American Black man - what are the odds? So this is a tricky thing about discussing racism in America. If a black dude is talking irrationally about race, the chances that the unreason is a response to white supremacy are pretty freakin’ high. Also, the chances that a white person shouldn’t go trying to diagnose the etiology are also pretty freakin’ high. But that doesn’t mean that we should let the unreason pass. When someone says something foolish, addressing the foolishness is appropriate, no matter what the reason for it. Yeah, a paranoid American Black man. I get it, I really do. But that paranoia gets challenged just like any other paranoia. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > An apple and a orange or both examples of fruit. By saying that, I did not equate an apple with an orange. Your analogy is nothing like what’s being discussed. It’s apples and oranges. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/44 "2018-07-24T13:46:34Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Your analogy is nothing like what’s being discussed. It’s apples and oranges. Using that comparison is as American as orange pie. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/45 "2018-07-24T13:53:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Using that comparison is as American as orange pie. Does every thread have to be about Trump? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/46 "2018-07-24T14:04:11Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Does every thread have to be about Trump? Coming soon to GD: Is Trump a person of color? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/47 "2018-07-24T14:13:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Coming soon to GD: Is Trump a person of color? Orange is the new Black? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/48 "2018-07-24T15:06:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Orange is the new Black? And … scene. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/49 "2018-07-24T15:19:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Orange is the new Black? You win the thread! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/50 "2018-07-24T19:10:35Z")
I agree it’s unfair to expect **Huey** to report posts without due compensation. I suspect he sees through your devious wipepo plot; first he clicks a button for free, next thing you know slavery’s back in full force and wipepo are claiming to have invented hip hop. Even bringing it to this board was a mistake, don’t let The Man tell you what to do! ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/51 "2018-07-24T22:14:27Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > I agree it’s unfair to expect **Huey** to report posts without due compensation. I suspect he sees through your devious wipepo plot; first he clicks a button for free, next thing you know slavery’s back in full force and wipepo are claiming to have invented hip hop. > > Even bringing it to this board was a mistake, don’t let The Man tell you what to do! “Wypipo” is the accepted spelling, I believe. I think **Huey** is a disingenuous arguer, and he does his (alleged) cause a disservice, since it prompts responses like yours. You may not be, but it sounds like you are belittling any legitimate concerns about white privilege, either on the board or in real life. And slavery is nothing to joke about. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/52 "2018-07-25T00:50:14Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > “Wypipo” is the accepted spelling, I believe. I thought it was “ytpipo”. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/53 "2018-07-25T01:11:03Z")
I think we’ve had enough of the ‘wypipo’ nonsense for one lifetime. Give it a rest. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/54 "2018-07-25T10:14:35Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > That’s not a remotely reasonable interpretation of what I wrote. To be clear, I do not _equate_ the two. You _did_ equate them, on one property - as things mods can raise that posters can’t - thereby drawing an equivalency between them. Or was your response sentence supposed to be wholly unrelated to the quote it sits under? But if being “anti-White” isn’t actually a moddable offence, like trolling is, I don’t see why you needed to mention it, anyway. We’ve been told, time and time again, that outright racism of other sorts isn’t in-and-of-itself against the rules, as long as it’s not done via other rule-breaking like insults. So even if you are correct, no rules were broken by that fact. I mean, you’re not modding posters _differently_ just because they display anti-_White_ bias, are you? I don’t recall any mods specifically calling posters out as “anti-Black” in any of those “Africans are teh dumb!” or “white genocide in SA” threads. So why mention it here? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/55 "2018-07-25T13:51:49Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > You _did_ equate them, on one property - as things mods can raise that posters can’t - thereby drawing an equivalency between them. Or was your response sentence supposed to be wholly unrelated to the quote it sits under? You got the ‘things mods can do that posters can’t’ part right, but the two things being used as an example part wrong - the “them” part in your post. The proximity of of the phrase ‘anti-white’ in the paragraph may cause it to appear as one of the two things, however it is not. [ul] [li]One of the things is accusing other posters of trolling. I can do that when moderating, but other posters cannot do that outside the Pit.[/li][li]The other thing is personalizing an argument, essentially attacking the person’s character or insulting them. I can do that when moderating, but other posters cannot do that outside the Pit.[/li][/ul] To fit this construction, where I did something that other posters cannot, it would have to be something like this: _One of the things is being anti-white. I can be anti-white when moderating, but other posters cannot be anti-white._ That doesn’t make sense. It’s more clear when looking at the commentary in context. Here is what Huey said above: > [@Huey\_Freeman](#): > > I also don’t think it’s the moderator’s job to impugn my posts as “anti-white”, either. He was objecting to this comment from me while moderating: > [@George Will says vote Dem in November](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-will-says-vote-dem-in-november/816619/25): > > You seem to be very interested in introducing anti-white sentiment in your posts. And while that can be fine or not depending on context, this type of language above is not. Calling people “negro” in this context is not okay. Huey apparently felt slighted/insulted/impugned by my comment. My response was responding to that sentiment, that yes I offered personalized commentary and that may be necessary when moderating. I specifically state that introducing anti-white sentiment can be fine, depending on context. It can also be not fine, depending on context. Given there has been no action taken wrt anti-white sentiment offered thus far, it’s a good indication that nothing has crossed a line. > [@](#): > > But if being “anti-White” isn’t actually a moddable offence, like trolling is, I don’t see why you needed to mention it, anyway. We’ve been told, time and time again, that outright racism of other sorts isn’t in-and-of-itself against the rules, as long as it’s not done via other rule-breaking like insults. So even if you are correct, no rules were broken by that fact. > > I mean, you’re not modding posters _differently_ just because they display anti-_White_ bias, are you? I don’t recall any mods specifically calling posters out as “anti-Black” in any of those “Africans are teh dumb!” or “white genocide in SA” threads. So why mention it here? :dubious: I question your conclusion that outright racism is not moddable, however given topics dealing with race are both sensitive and complex, context plays a big role. Here you seem to want to re-litigate past history - I decline your invitation. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466/56 "2018-07-25T15:17:15Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > You got the ‘things mods can do that posters can’t’ part right, but the two things being used as an example part wrong - the “them” part in your post. The proximity of of the phrase ‘anti-white’ in the paragraph may cause it to appear as one of the two things, however it is not. > [ul] > [li]One of the things is accusing other posters of trolling. I can do that when moderating, but other posters cannot do that outside the Pit.[/li][li]The other thing is personalizing an argument, essentially attacking the person’s character or insulting them. I can do that when moderating, but other posters cannot do that outside the Pit.[/li][/ul] I see my misunderstanding, you’re correct. Sorry for that. > [@](#): > > I question your conclusion that outright racism is not moddable That’s exactly what mods have said in the past. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-bone-to-pick/818466.md?page=2)