# No Cheese - Goddammit, I said NO CHEESE!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 4, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323 "2006-01-04T01:40:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![xbuckeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9e8a1a/32.png) [@xbuckeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xbuckeye)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/101 "2006-01-11T01:40:53Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > I’m reminded of the Starbucks thread where someone with a deathly allergy to caffeine apparently went in and ordered decaf, essentially rolling the dice on the attention and care of minimum-wage kids. If I was Hindi, I wouldn’t go to fricking McDonald’s, even if it was just for the fries. Ummm…hunh? Correct me if I’m wrong…but even decaff has caffiene yes? Did I miss this thread? > [@levdrakon](#): > > Zactly! I say this as someone who was born in California, grew up in Wisconsin, and now lives in California. > > Our cows are cooler than your cows. They just are. When are you going to learn to accept this??? All this proves is that you have no taste. First, you moved back to California, but then, you spout the coolness of your cows and the tastiness of your crappy cheese. You probably also eat wonder bread and canned vegetables. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/102 "2006-01-11T01:42:22Z")
> [@Nickrz](#): > > Here, this might piss you off: Thank you, I was looking for an argument tonight. > [@](#): > > 1. I’ve been in a hundred different Subway shops and I’ve never had more than one person ask me what kind of cheese I wanted on any particular sammich. A simple “no cheese” always works for me. What the fuck is wrong with you, you can’t make yourself understood? Do you mumble or speak in foreign tongues? Well, let’s see - I was born and raised in the US Midwest and, as this subway was in the downtown Chicago, presumably that dialect is well understood in that location. I was not experiencing demonic possesion, pentacostal episodes, or practicing a foreign language. Given, the fourth time I said “no cheese” everyone in the place turned around and looked at me, it is probably reasonable to assume my vocal volume was adequate. Based upon the scanty evidence at hand, I therefore concluded there was something fucked up with the sandwhich drone. > [@](#): > > Who the hell do you think you are, that they should remember your wishes and desires from one moment to the next? I am the customer. I am the one bringing the cash to the business that pays their pitiful salary. Given the large number of food sellers in the immediate vicinity I, and the other thousands who tromped through the store, are in no way obligated to patronize this particular establishment. Piss off enough of us, your employer goes out of business and you are standing outside the former Subway selling _Streetwise_ with duct tape holding your shoes together and shivering. > [@](#): > > You are not important to them; you are one of a thousand bleating sheep that passes in front of their sorry lot each day. How would you feel with your prune-y hands stuck in those gloves for hours on end? I would think “Thank Og I have a job of some sort, this is a hell of a lot better than some things I’ve done for moeny, and I’m going to update my resume when I get home and apply for better next week.” > [@](#): > > Letting petty annoyances raise your stress hormone levels and blood pressure will take years off your pathetic life. Actually, I felt a hell of a lot better after I came here and vented. How are you doing, asshole? > [@](#): > > Yelling at poorly-paid employees of a probably marginally profitable fast food emporium is not high on the list of attributes for a well-adjusted adult in our society. Boo-fucking-hoo. Look, if I go to McDonald’s or Wendy’s or Arby’s I DON’T make special requests - I order shit that can come off their assemblyline with no modification. Subway, however, advertises and promotes the outlandish notion that you can have it YOUR way. The fact that you and I have both visited many, many Subways where the employees comprehend “no cheese” demonstrates that this is not a bizarre strategy, even with minimally paid drones behind the counter. Therefore, yes, this was a defective drone. > [@](#): > > Perhaps seek anger management counseling or brown-bag it or stay the fuck home and make your own goddamned sandwich. Normally I do, however, once in awhile I get this outlandish notion of taking a break from my own cooking or, worse yet, we have a Lunch Thief at work. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/103 "2006-01-11T01:51:19Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > This surprises me. I seem to get a significant amount of cross-contamination at Subway, like a stray olive or pickle fragment in my sandwiches all the time, because all the toppings are in open bins used by harried people reaching across all of them for handfuls of slippery food. Drips happen, and frequently. The Subways near where I live actually have the sandwhich drones change gloves between orders. I also try not to go there during rush periods, for exactly that reason. > [@](#): > > If tiny amounts of tomato juice is really that bad for you, I’d think you’d be dead already. I think I can guarantee that you’ve ingested some there, mixed in with other stuff, assuming you eat there with any frequency. A microscopic cross-contamination will not kill me. However, the amount left behind by a juicy tomato slice on a sandwhich is capable of making me extremely ill. There is absolutely no way to elminate the juice and seeds from a sandwhich once that slice has been lain on it. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/104 "2006-01-11T03:27:18Z")
> [@xbuckeye](#): > > You probably also eat wonder bread and canned vegetables. Are you stalking me??? :eek: 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/105 "2006-01-11T07:48:49Z")
I detest american cheese and psuedo provolone. I have always ordered extra olives on my subway sandwich of choice, no cheese, extra olives. The last time I went, I asked for no cheese, extra olives, the lady insisted on charging me .10 extra for the olives, so I explained to her they charge .15 for extra cheese so deduct the $.05 difference and I would be ok. She didn’t like that one bit, refused to deduct for NOT wanting cheese and insisting on charging for extra olives. I haven’t been back. ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/106 "2006-01-11T10:50:37Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > If I was Hindi, I wouldn’t go to fricking McDonald’s, even if it was just for the fries. Well, if you were a Hindu (Hindi is the language) no you wouldn’t, at least in the US. McD’s fries (or the oil they’re fried in, I forget which) have a beef product in them for flavor. They did this at the McD’s in India, at first. When the vegetarian Hindus found out they’d been eating beef, there was an uproar and a big backlash. Indian McD’s now have a menu with many guaranteed purely vegetarian items. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/107 "2006-01-11T11:27:53Z")
> [@zagloba](#): > > Well, if you were a Hindu (Hindi is the language) no you wouldn’t, at least in the US. McD’s fries (or the oil they’re fried in, I forget which) have a beef product in them for flavor. They did this at the McD’s in India, at first. When the vegetarian Hindus found out they’d been eating beef, there was an uproar and a big backlash. Indian McD’s now have a menu with many guaranteed purely vegetarian items. No longer true. McDonald’s _used to_ fry in beef tallow. They don’t anymore, they switched to vegetable oil. _\>sigh\<_ Beef tallow fries were sooooo much tastier… ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/108 "2006-01-11T15:20:57Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > No longer true. McDonald’s _used to_ fry in beef tallow. They don’t anymore, they switched to vegetable oil. > > _\>sigh\<_ Beef tallow fries were sooooo much tastier… Nope, **zagloba** is correct. Their fries have beef-derived flavor (I think they’re dipped in beef broth) added during the manufacturing process. Here I thought I was just getting sensitive to fried foods after getting mild stomach upset from eating McD’s fries (as a vegetarian) - yet other fries didn’t bother me after I tried them. Years later, this suit is filed. If you check the [ingredients list](http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.categories.ingredients.index.html) at the McDonald’s website and scroll down to french fries, you’ll see that now they take care to point out “natural flavor (beef source).” They do this to their hash browns too. ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/109 "2006-01-11T21:38:08Z")
> [@Auntbeast](#): > > I detest american cheese and psuedo provolone. I have always ordered extra olives on my subway sandwich of choice, no cheese, extra olives. The last time I went, I asked for no cheese, extra olives, the lady insisted on charging me .10 extra for the olives, so I explained to her they charge .15 for extra cheese so deduct the $.05 difference and I would be ok. She didn’t like that one bit, refused to deduct for NOT wanting cheese and insisting on charging for extra olives. > > I haven’t been back. Are you sure they just weren’t charging you for having to think about extra olives on a sandwhich. -shudder- Actually, I’m surprised, they’ve never charged me for extra pickles on my sandwhich, and I always get cheese. They would even waive the .10 they were supposed to charge on those old small round ones when i wanted onion, because I would never get the condiments they normally put on. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/110 "2006-01-11T21:47:07Z")
> [@zagloba](#): > > Well, if you were a Hindu (Hindi is the language) no you wouldn’t, at least in the US. McD’s fries (or the oil they’re fried in, I forget which) have a beef product in them for flavor. I keep kosher (but will eat vegetarian food or kosher fish in non-kosher restaurants), and won’t eat McDonald’s fries for this reason. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/111 "2006-01-11T22:15:53Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I’ve been a fast food manager. I didn’t care. As I kept looking at the the BBQ pit I was wondering how this thread had gotten so long. Now, only 23 posts into it, I can guess… -Joe ---
**Author:** ![xbuckeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9e8a1a/32.png) [@xbuckeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xbuckeye)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/112 "2006-01-12T03:07:25Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Are you stalking me??? :eek: > > 😛 no, but sadly, your type is all too common. You just don’t know good cheese when it bites you. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/113 "2006-01-12T07:32:33Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > See, that’s why you’re going to burn in hell. Heathen I was already going to burn in hell, so nyah-nyah. Er, wait a minute… ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/114 "2006-01-12T11:44:56Z")
> [@](#): > > And seriously, is there anything more pretentious than calling them “Sandwich Artists”? They’re making a sammich. And with less accuracy than my 10 year old nephew. No, there isn’t. I’m an ex “sandwich artist”. There is no art, nor could there ever possibly be. We get shown how to make a sandwich ten minutes before our first shift and then stick to the same formula until we quit. As for Subway’s cheese, try eating it when it’s not on a sandwich. It’s possibly the most disgusting thing ever and has the consistency and sheen of no cheese I have ever seen before. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323/115 "2006-01-12T11:47:46Z")
> [@Auntbeast](#): > > I detest american cheese and psuedo provolone. I have always ordered extra olives on my subway sandwich of choice, no cheese, extra olives. The last time I went, I asked for no cheese, extra olives, the lady insisted on charging me .10 extra for the olives, so I explained to her they charge .15 for extra cheese so deduct the $.05 difference and I would be ok. She didn’t like that one bit, refused to deduct for NOT wanting cheese and insisting on charging for extra olives. > > I haven’t been back. She’s either an idiot or new. You can generally have as many vegetables as you want, with no extra charge, only “cheese” and meats are extra, at least in the UK. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-cheese-goddammit-i-said-no-cheese/338323.md?page=5)