# No Civ4 thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 26, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007 "2005-10-26T15:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/1 "2005-10-26T15:42:20Z")
Ok, I know it’s only a day old, but c’mon. Unless the game is so good, you can avoid the Dope for it, you’ve got to let the rest of us know what you think, etc. etc. I’ve got to justify getting a new video card to the wife, so this is important! Shower me with your golden wisdom. _ahem_ ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/2 "2005-10-26T15:58:17Z")
I’m just cranky that Amazon hasn’t yet shipped the pre-sell edition I ordered a while ago. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/3 "2005-10-26T16:10:19Z")
It’s out? Is it? I went to CompUSA yesterday evening hoping it was out, and it wasn’t there. Woe. Misery and woe. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/4 "2005-10-26T16:19:06Z")
I thought it came out on Oct 29. At least, that’s what Amazon told me when I pre-ordered by copy. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/5 "2005-10-26T16:19:20Z")
It’ll be another week before it’s released in Europe. Apart from that, I’m a bit wary. I liked Civ3, but with each expansion pack I got a feeling saying “Why didn’t they do this from the start?” Maybe I’ll wait a while to hear some feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/6 "2005-10-26T16:32:46Z")
I hope Civ4 doesn’t have anywhere near the amount of bugs as Age of Empires III had in its initial release. The first patch was released a day after the game was. Still, there are so many more issues to be dealt with. The game itself is hardly an improvement on AgeII…what a let-down. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/7 "2005-10-26T16:35:30Z")
Dare I ask. Is it available for the Mac, or only the Lesser Machines? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/8 "2005-10-26T16:45:43Z")
I just checked my Amazon order and their delivery estimate is _Nov 9_?! Sonova… :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/9 "2005-10-26T16:46:49Z")
I need to see how this new “Turbo mode” or whatever they called the shortened gameplay style works out before I pick it up. In Civ3, I’d always lose interest before the game would finish, usually once the computer players started using 5 - 10 minutes for their turns. Supposedly, it’s designed with multiplayer in mind, which is nice since that’s usually where the best gameplay lies, but I fear that it is a little too slow for me. If not though, it’d certainly be great to have a deep strategy game to try. **Paul in Saudi** : Mac users are left out for now. ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/10 "2005-10-26T16:47:28Z")
trust me, anybody who is already playing Civ4 is going to disappear off the face of the earth for the next couple of weeks, so don’t expect to hear from any dopers regarding this game. I am too scared to get it, knowing my history with that series… ---
**Author:** ![jsmith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jsmith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsmith)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/11 "2005-10-26T16:50:24Z")
> [@Paul in Saudi](#): > > Dare I ask. Is it available for the Mac, or only the Lesser Machines? Not yet available for the Mac. Usually some company comes along (MacSoft?) and works a deal with Firaxis to port it to Mac after the initial release. So far noone has announced they are porting it yet. In the meantime, I will be enjoying playing Civ IV on my lesser and overly bloated Windows XP machine. ---
**Author:** ![Hugh\_Jass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4da419/32.png) [@Hugh\_Jass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hugh_Jass)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/12 "2005-10-26T16:52:43Z")
I dinna know it was oot, captin! I’m gonna go try to buy it today. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/13 "2005-10-26T16:52:45Z")
The store just called me. It’s in. I’m on my way! My review later. A new baby and a new Civ within nine days. Life is good. ---
**Author:** ![jkirkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@jkirkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkirkman)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/14 "2005-10-26T16:57:04Z")
> [@Hi](#): > > I hope Civ4 doesn’t have anywhere near the amount of bugs as Age of Empires III had in its initial release. The first patch was released a day after the game was. Still, there are so many more issues to be dealt with. The game itself is hardly an improvement on AgeII…what a let-down. Well, something might have crept in late, but the game itself was pretty much bug-free by late Spring. A number of the gameplay changes and balance changes suffered from the inevitable unintended consequences, and some of these sorts of issues might arise upon release, but the game itself has been solid for a long time. There will, of course, also be the inevitable hardware issues with combinations not seen in the testing phases. Here is a walkthrough from one of the game testers (not me). [http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/civ4intro.html](http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/civ4intro.html) ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/15 "2005-10-26T17:38:46Z")
Amazon also claims delivery by Nov 9 for me too, **Terminus Est**. I called the local EBgames to see if they had any Civ4 Special Editions in stock. They do, but only for those who pre-ordered, and not for all of them; they were shorted about four or five on their order. I asked if any other local EBgames would have any in stock for non-preorders, and he doubted it as he had gotten a few calls from other managers who were also shorted on their delivery. My suspicion is that Amazon also got shorted on their supply and don’t have enough to fulfill all of their existing orders. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/16 "2005-10-26T17:46:57Z")
I specifically don’t have it yet because I have several exams and papers this week, and as soon as I pick it up… well there’s a lost week or so. Looking forward to seeing some great reviews as you guys get it in 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/17 "2005-10-26T18:17:09Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > A new baby and a new Civ within nine days. Life is good. So, no sleep for you, huh? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/18 "2005-10-26T18:38:08Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The store just called me. It’s in. I’m on my way! My review later. > > A new baby and a new Civ within nine days. Life is good. Lucky bastard! CompUSA and BestBuy are still listing it as “Coming Soon!” with no in-store inventory. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/19 "2005-10-26T18:43:34Z")
WOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOO!!! Well, I got backordered by Amazon, just like most people… So I went to my local EB Games, stepped up and had the following exchange: Me: “You guys by any chance have Civilization IV?” Them: “You want the Collector’s Edition or the Regular? They’re the Same Price.” Me: “Ummm… Collector’s. Thanks.” Cha-Ching! Now: CANCEL AMAZON ORDER. Now: Install! TTFN Dopers - See you in a week or so when I come up for air. - Peter Wiggen ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007/20 "2005-10-26T18:59:43Z")
I probably won’t get mine until Christmas. I just moved into this house that’s been neglected for three years, and cannot in good conscious get wrapped up in Civ 4. I am so envious of you guys that do have the time for it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-civ4-thread/328007.md?page=2)